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#181 Postby WeatherTracker » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:51 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:steve lions says its a hurricane.
it has been confirmed that it is a hurricane...11am advisory has it at hurricane status
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#182 Postby WeatherTracker » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:53 am

Tropical Storm Public Advisory

Statement as of 11:00 am AST on September 16, 2006



...Helene becomes the fourth hurricane of the Atlantic season...
At 1100 am AST...1500z...the center of Hurricane Helene was located
near latitude 18.8 north...longitude 45.6 west or about 1145 miles
...1845 km...east of the northern Leeward Islands.

Helene is moving toward the northwest near 14 mph...22 km/hr...and
this motion is expected to continue during the next 24 hours.

Maximum sustained winds are near 75 mph...120 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Helene is a category one hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson
hurricane scale. Some strengthening is forecast during the next 24
hours.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 30 miles...45 km...from
the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 175
miles...280 km.

Estimated minimum central pressure is 987 mb...29.15 inches.

Repeating the 1100 am AST position...18.8 N...45.6 W. Movement
toward...northwest near 14 mph. Maximum sustained winds...75 mph.
Minimum central pressure...987 mb.

The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at
500 PM AST.

$$
Forecaster Beven/landsea
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#183 Postby WeatherTracker » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:56 am

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#184 Postby Frank2 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:20 am

That GFS model is interesting, but, it looks like we have bigger fish to fry, however (I couldn't resist the pun) - we might have to keep an eye on the "I" when it comes along...

Frank
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#185 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:21 am

Derek Ortt wrote:for those wanting this to hit the EC, root for a very strong trough, one that is negatively tilted


Don't tease them, Derek
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#186 Postby WeatherTracker » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:21 am

Frank2 wrote:That GFS model is interesting, but, it looks like we have bigger fish to fry, however (I couldn't resist the pun) - we might have to keep an eye on the "I" when it comes along...

Frank
it is...but most likely we will have a fish that "may" come near bermuda....
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#187 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:23 am

Frank2 wrote:That GFS model is interesting, but, it looks like we have bigger fish to fry, however (I couldn't resist the pun) - we might have to keep an eye on the "I" when it comes along...

Frank


2 much fish even for you huh Frank? LOL
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#188 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:23 am

Frank2 wrote:That GFS model is interesting, but, it looks like we have bigger fish to fry, however (I couldn't resist the pun) - we might have to keep an eye on the "I" when it comes along...

Frank


You really think so, Frank? It looks like we will have another CV system next week, but the synoptics don't look that much different. A long tracker just seems unlikely this season.
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#189 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:25 am

I'm in a rare good mood today (but may not be after tonight if I lose $$ on college football)

if the trough is a little stronger than the GFS is indicating, Helene would not hit Halifix, but Cape Cod and Maine (with a good blow to Boston)

but it is the GFS and most here know how much I detest that model
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#190 Postby Frank2 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:25 am

Destructo,

Chicken of the Sea is my favorite (with mayo and pickle)...

Frank

P.S. sma10 - the GFS does seem to show more ridging across the western Atlantic over the next week or so...
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#191 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:32 am

Frank2 wrote:Destructo,

Chicken of the Sea is my favorite (with mayo and pickle)...

Frank

P.S. sma10 - the GFS does seem to show more ridging across the western Atlantic over the next week or so...


The question of course is.... Would "I" storm get even far enough west to feel that ridging. For the longest time the GFS had been recurving that storm-to-be way, way out east.
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#192 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:33 am

Derek Ortt wrote:I'm in a rare good mood today (but may not be after tonight if I lose $$ on college football)


Well, if you got Miami over Louisville.....then....you might be in trouble.
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#193 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:36 am

sma10 wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:I'm in a rare good mood today (but may not be after tonight if I lose $$ on college football)


Well, if you got Miami over Louisville.....then....you might be in trouble.


No doubt...Louisvlle may be the BB of the day...Miami WILL take a beating by at least 15 pts..
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#194 Postby WeatherTracker » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:41 am

Imagelatest model tracks
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#195 Postby WeatherTracker » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:51 am

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#196 Postby trugunz » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:02 am

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#197 Postby curtadams » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:04 am

The maps say no shear now but she looks like she's getting substantial NW shear. Outflow is all to the E and S. On the NE side you have these lines of convection that look almost like fronts being held close to the main convection. What's going on?
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#198 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:05 am

trugunz wrote:Image


We would have had a good time with Esther.
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#199 Postby Thunder44 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:07 am

12z GFS is out to 84hrs, so far it looks identical to the 6z run.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#200 Postby sma10 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:13 am

Thunder44 wrote:12z GFS is out to 84hrs, so far it looks identical to the 6z run.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml


Yep. GFS still likes that due west motion. But keep this in mind: The GFS plans are entirely contingent on Gordon getting out of the way quickly. We'll see if that transpires.
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