2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1841 Postby LarryWx » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:36 pm

It wouldn't be a late Sep-Oct Happy Hour GEFS run without significant W basin action:

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1842 Postby AJC3 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:32 am

This post bridges the Global Models and Tropical Waves threads. Currently, there's a wave over west-central Africa that all of the global models pick up on as it exits the coast during the next 3-4 days. Between days 4 and 10 days it tracks westward through the MDR with very little fanfare. In fact, the ECMWF dampens this wave out to the point that it's no longer identifiable in about 6-7 days. However, the CMC and GFS show this wave reaching the eastern Caribbean Sea by day 10.

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Looking further out well into the fantasy-land time frame, the GFS spins this wave up a tropical cyclone just south of Puerto Rico, then has it moving it WNW near the larger islands of the GA at 384hr. Sure, the extended range caveats apply, but I found it mildly interesting nonetheless. I attached a Current METEOSAT image of the wave next to the last panel of the 00Z GFS.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1843 Postby SFLcane » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:33 am

So this is interesting…

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1844 Postby kevin » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:43 am



Indeed interesting, let's see if the models actually develop something once we get to ~Oct15. These are the highest intensity analogs (October or later) that correlate with such a pattern.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1845 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:49 am

kevin wrote:


Indeed interesting, let's see if the models actually develop something once we get to ~Oct15. These are the highest intensity analogs (October or later) that correlate with such a pattern.

https://i.imgur.com/OLLcqrJ.png


And many of those are extremely infamous storms :eek:
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1846 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:54 am

Looks like GEFS pushes out any development later into the forecast.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1847 Postby crownweather » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:10 am



Just like I found this very interesting yesterday -

 https://twitter.com/crownweather/status/1443240094111092741


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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1848 Postby chris_fit » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:18 am

06Z GEFS - Pretty Active...

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00Z EPS - Coming on board...

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Anyone have the Canadian Ens?
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1849 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:47 am

SFLcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:


Hi Adrian! FOUR more weeks and climo starts saying enjoy the Dry Season in S FL! :sun:


:cry:


The dry season might have already started. Outside a few days next week, the GFS shows dry, continental air blanketing the Gulf and Florida for the foreseeable future. Maybe the door has already shut even for Florida, but the Caribbean could still see something.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1850 Postby toad strangler » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:23 pm

gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
Hi Adrian! FOUR more weeks and climo starts saying enjoy the Dry Season in S FL! :sun:


:cry:


The dry season might have already started. Outside a few days next week, the GFS shows dry, continental air blanketing the Gulf and Florida for the foreseeable future. Maybe the door has already shut even for Florida, but the Caribbean could still see something.

https://i.postimg.cc/mgg8qRpz/gfs-mid-RH-watl-fh0-240.gif


Dry season has without a doubt already started. My point was that there are just four more weeks until the tropics generally are done even in SFL.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1851 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:26 pm

gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
Hi Adrian! FOUR more weeks and climo starts saying enjoy the Dry Season in S FL! :sun:


:cry:


The dry season might have already started. Outside a few days next week, the GFS shows dry, continental air blanketing the Gulf and Florida for the foreseeable future. Maybe the door has already shut even for Florida, but the Caribbean could still see something.

https://i.postimg.cc/mgg8qRpz/gfs-mid-RH-watl-fh0-240.gif

Yep, Florida all clear till next season. Season ends when the GFS shows continental dry air :)

Cya! :spam:

Of course, all jokes aside it's the GFS so we'll see if that holds true.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1852 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:38 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
:cry:


The dry season might have already started. Outside a few days next week, the GFS shows dry, continental air blanketing the Gulf and Florida for the foreseeable future. Maybe the door has already shut even for Florida, but the Caribbean could still see something.

https://i.postimg.cc/mgg8qRpz/gfs-mid-RH-watl-fh0-240.gif

Yep, Florida all clear till next season. Season ends when the GFS shows continental dry air :)

Cya! :spam:

Of course, all jokes aside it's the GFS so we'll see if that holds true.


Also important to note that the recent GFS run is very bearish on EPAC activity too, so...hmm. Typically when EPAC activity is rumbling the Atlantic stays more quiet, but if the EPAC is quiet late season during a La Nina year, something tells me that the Atlantic would feature more substantial activity. Willing to bank on the latter.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1853 Postby boca » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:18 pm

I’m thinking that we will be ok here in Florida with all that dry air coming down here like gatercane showed. The Bermuda high had everything in the MDR recurving and that will not change.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1854 Postby chris_fit » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:28 pm

12z GEFS still active....

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1855 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:31 pm

chris_fit wrote:12z GEFS still active....

https://i.imgur.com/GEdgc2w.gif

Not really, it's actually less active than 06z.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1856 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:49 pm

LarryWx wrote:Checks watch: is it Happy Hour already? This is from the 12Z GEFS though:

https://i.imgur.com/eq1xpIm.png

Yesterdays?
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1857 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:50 pm

LarryWx wrote:Checks watch: is it Happy Hour already? This is from the 12Z GEFS though:

https://i.imgur.com/eq1xpIm.png

It's from 12z yesterday.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1858 Postby LarryWx » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:00 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
LarryWx wrote:Checks watch: is it Happy Hour already? This is from the 12Z GEFS though:

https://i.imgur.com/eq1xpIm.png

It's from 12z yesterday.


Thanks. Sorry, my bad. But it it still pretty active:
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1859 Postby chris_fit » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:03 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
chris_fit wrote:12z GEFS still active....

https://i.imgur.com/GEdgc2w.gif

Not really, it's actually less active than 06z.


Maybe less active than the 06z, not sure, but that doesn't mean it not active... It's spitting out Tropical systems out of the NE Caribbean left and right.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1860 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:18 pm

Compare last 2 GEFS....
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0z ECENS:
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And the usually crazy GEPS is (unusually) less active..
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