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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#1921 Postby tolakram » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:52 am



What is their source, do you know?
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#1922 Postby skyline385 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:05 pm

Anyone here knows if there is any correlation between the extreme heat wave in the Europe this year and tropical activity? UK in particular is just completely wrecking records and I would be interested in seeing if there is any connection to it.
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#1923 Postby weeniepatrol » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:39 pm

skyline385 wrote:Anyone here knows if there is any correlation between the extreme heat wave in the Europe this year and tropical activity? UK in particular is just completely wrecking records and I would be interested in seeing if there is any connection to it.


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#1924 Postby SFLcane » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:37 pm

tolakram wrote:


What is their source, do you know?


Oh sure, this is Dr. Ryan Truchelut he is great he put together a seasonal model which updates about every week. Its been holding into the 160's for a few weeks now.

https://weathertiger.substack.com/p/rea ... ricane?s=w
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#1925 Postby LarryWx » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:37 pm

skyline385 wrote:Anyone here knows if there is any correlation between the extreme heat wave in the Europe this year and tropical activity? UK in particular is just completely wrecking records and I would be interested in seeing if there is any connection to it.


This is, indeed, absolutely insane heat! The all time W. Europe records now being broken or at least threatened were last set on these dates:

7/21/2021, 7/25/2019, 6/25/2019, 7/13/2017, 8/7/2015, 7/5/2015, 8/10/2012, 7/16/2005, 9/8/2003, 8/12/2003, 8/2/1990

So, one could look at 2021, 2019, 2017, 2015, 2012, 2005, 2003, and 1990 to see if there's a pattern.

Together with this heatwave, the Mediterranean, Bay of Biscay, and English Channel, among other waters, are significantly warmer than normal. Also, note that 5 of the last 8 summers have had record heat. So, obviously AGW is playing a significant part in all of this (several degrees in all likelihood).
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#1926 Postby SFLcane » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:58 pm

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#1927 Postby Emmett_Brown » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:04 pm



The real difference between these shear maps has more to do with comparing June-July shear with Aug-Oct shear.
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#1928 Postby SFLcane » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:13 pm

Not much deep into the caribbean despite all the hoopla from the ukmet and ecmwf. :sick:

My point is who knows

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#1929 Postby weeniepatrol » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:38 pm

Just for fun, I plotted some Jun to Jul SSTas. Do modest ssts preclude an active hurricane season?

Not a chance.

1999 (176 ACE)

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2000 (119 ACE)

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2001(110 ACE)

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2004 (226 ACE)

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2018 (132 ACE)

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2019 (132 ACE)

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Last year... (145 ACE)

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And of course, 2022 YTD:

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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#1930 Postby SFLcane » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:44 pm

Look who is waking up... :slime:

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#1931 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:05 pm

SFLcane wrote:Look who is waking up... :slime:

https://i.postimg.cc/Rhn56dGn/ED1vmWoO.png


When it’s the GFS, we shrug. But when it’s the Euro…we scream :lol:

Jk, but makes sense given the favorable CCKW should pass by then
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Re: 2022 Indicators (SSTs/SAL/MSLP/Shear/Steering/Instability) and >Day 16 Models

#1932 Postby skyline385 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:16 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Look who is waking up... :slime:

https://i.postimg.cc/Rhn56dGn/ED1vmWoO.png


When it’s the GFS, we shrug. But when it’s the Euro…we scream :lol:

Jk, but makes sense given the favorable CCKW should pass by then

Yea it was on the weekly yesterday too
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#1933 Postby skyline385 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:19 pm

skyline385 wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Hmm missed this one because was focusing on long-range, this is probably also what the GFS has been hinting at. Maybe could see something weak spin up?

https://i.imgur.com/pSItMwX.png


Slightly more GEFS support for end of July coinciding with the rising cell over NATL, there is a small chance here

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Correction, looks like a moderate chance now

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#1934 Postby SFLcane » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:33 pm

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#1935 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:11 pm

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#1936 Postby skyline385 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:32 pm

LarryWx wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Anyone here knows if there is any correlation between the extreme heat wave in the Europe this year and tropical activity? UK in particular is just completely wrecking records and I would be interested in seeing if there is any connection to it.


This is, indeed, absolutely insane heat! The all time W. Europe records now being broken or at least threatened were last set on these dates:

7/21/2021, 7/25/2019, 6/25/2019, 7/13/2017, 8/7/2015, 7/5/2015, 8/10/2012, 7/16/2005, 9/8/2003, 8/12/2003, 2/8/1990

So, one could look at 2021, 2019, 2017, 2015, 2012, 2005, 2003, and 1990 to see if there's a pattern.

Together with this heatwave, the Mediterranean, Bay of Biscay, and English Channel, among other waters, are significantly warmer than normal. Also, note that 5 of the last 8 summers have had record heat. So, obviously AGW is playing a significant part in all of this (several degrees in all likelihood).

It is indeed pretty insane

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#1937 Postby skyline385 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:04 pm

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#1938 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:16 pm

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#1939 Postby skyline385 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:49 pm

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#1940 Postby Deshaunrob17 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:30 am

skyline385 wrote:Anyone here knows if there is any correlation between the extreme heat wave in the Europe this year and tropical activity? UK in particular is just completely wrecking records and I would be interested in seeing if there is any connection to it.

Wasn’t there a deadly European Heatwave in 2003?
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