Strong Tropical Wave SSE of Cabo Verde Islands (Is Invest 92L)

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#21 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:45 pm

Not again here. :eek:
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#22 Postby supercane4867 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:45 pm

Heading for a recurve track after hitting the islands. Ridge opens up in the north.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#23 Postby USTropics » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:48 pm

I'm fairly confident this is the wave the CFS was consistently forecasting to develop 2 weeks ago. It still shows intermittent development, but interaction with Hispaniola/Cuba puts a cap on things. Here were the runs from July 6th-8th:
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#24 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:49 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Heading for a recurve track after hitting the islands. Ridge opens up in the north.


That track is a little too reminiscent of Maria :double:
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#25 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:50 pm

216 hours WNW:

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#26 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:50 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Heading for a recurve track after hitting the islands. Ridge opens up in the north.

Doubt that’ll make it to the U.S. with a trough like that sitting along the NE U.S.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#27 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:53 pm

Curious that the GFS shows what looks to be the Euro’s hurricane at the 500mb level. This feature heads into Florida:

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#28 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:56 pm

At 216 hours it looks like there is more than enough weakness to recurve this away from the US. With that said, it is WAY TOO EARLY to trust any steering forecast that far out. Everyone from Honduras to the Canadian Maritimes are in play at this point.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#29 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:58 pm

240 hours:

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#30 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:59 pm

Still quite a ways out, but this is proof that we're about to enter the meat of hurricane season.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#31 Postby Cataegis96 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:00 pm

Trough gets hung up over the East, while the Bermuda high builds west with the potential system of interest. Verbatim would be a definitive US direct impact there if the run continued. This wave will need watching, but many days ahead to track and for things to change if anything does indeed develop.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#32 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:03 pm

If this wave ends up developing, it will need to be watched as it could be the first "true" significant threat of the season.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#33 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:04 pm


Folks in the NW Bahamas definitely don’t want to see this after Dorian last year. Places over in The Abacos are starting to get back to somewhat normal.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#34 Postby sma10 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:05 pm

gatorcane wrote:It doesn’t look like a wave that is going to develop as a Cape Verde storm. The SAL has got the upper half of the wave. Without any support from the GFS and waning support from the CMC, best to lean with climo and say no development. Perhaps it may find some favorable conditions down the road in 8-10 days. Bears watching but just a few weeks too early out there:

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Normally, I would be in this corner, as well. But on rare occasions (2005, for example) a season comes along that ignores the calendar and doesn't play by normal rules.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#35 Postby Hammy » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:10 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Overnight EPS very active with wave emerging of the African coast. One to watch for sure.

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I remain skeptical. Still not one GFS ensemble develops, the CMC has backed off as well. Could be that the upgraded Euro develops more phantoms in the long-range (as we have seen in the EPAC) but the model still looks solid for tracking a storm once it develops as it is nailing Gonzalo. We know the SAL that is wreaking havoc on Gonzalo is still blanketing the MDR and is not going anywhere anytime soon.

I’m with you too gatorcane! Seeing that Gonzalo didn’t last more than a few days as an impressive entity due to all the SAL and mid-level dry air has me really skeptical of this developing as the Euro and the CMC are basically it. Not to mention I keep noticing the Euro is slowly delaying or pushing back development of this area. Things will likely ramp up some but not for a month or so.


GFS is a bad model to put any stock into, it didn't develop Gonzalo at all and even the last few years has only succeeded in catching storms in the MDR more than a day or so out a few times--in fact Dorian is really the only exception I remember. I am increasingly skeptical of anything further developing before the second week of August as the suppressive Kelvin wave (that likely contributed to Gonzalo falling apart) is finally being picked up by the other models.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#36 Postby toad strangler » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:16 pm

That 12z Euro run If you believe 500mb this far out, which I do not, HP is building in from the East that might push this into either FL or the lower SE coast just as a trough is moving by to scoop it up. Too far out.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#37 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:21 pm

toad strangler wrote:That 12z Euro run If you believe 500mb this far out, which I do not, HP is building in from the East that might push this into either FL or the lower SE coast just as a trough is moving by to scoop it up. Too far out.

I doubt Florida but more so the Carolinas or Northeast but like you said this is 10+ days away and will change. I’d much rather be the target 10 days out because odds are it won’t hit there.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#38 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:34 pm

Keep in mind Irma at one time was recurving into the open Atl. Plenty of time to watch this one
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#39 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:36 pm

SFLcane wrote:Keep in mind Irma at one time was recurving into the open Atl. Plenty of time to watch this one

I do remember that and it ended up getting into the extreme SE Gulf before finally making landfall on Marco Island.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave emerging West Africa

#40 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:55 pm

12z EPS has still active with several members into FL also into GOM.

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