Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean (Is Invest 97L)

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#21 Postby MarioProtVI » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:03 pm

cycloneye wrote:12z Euro operational has it moving to CentralAmerica as it has the ridge strong.

https://i.imgur.com/YIJ6ftB.gif

Anytime the Euro has this you have to watch out. I think Eta 2020 started out this way and I’m concerned this may try to emulate this. Of course we could also just end up with a Lisa repeat as well.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#22 Postby Blown Away » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:38 pm

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#23 Postby blp » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:06 pm

12z Euro ENS further North and stronger. Trend is North today. A little more and it will be all offshore. Very few members bury into C. America.

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#24 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pm

blp wrote:12z Euro ENS further North and stronger. Trend is North today. A little more and it will be all offshore. Very few members bury into C. America.

https://i.ibb.co/VYG4GjY/ecens-2023-10-29-12-Z-240-27-518-269-39-9-635-297-867-MSLP-Surface-tracks-lows.png


Yes blp.Trend at operational is also more north and a little bit stronger.

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#25 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:51 pm

Development of something looks likely. Seems to me like a classic case of Euro-slow-to-catch-up, while the GFS is in happy hour.

Moderate TS/minimal hurricane in the Western Caribbean is my bet, with a landfall somewhere in Central America based on the steering currents.
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#26 Postby SFLcane » Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:36 pm

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#27 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:00 pm

18z GFS considerably moving up the time frame for TC genesis, now has a tropical storm in the eastern Caribbean by Thursday morning.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#28 Postby WalterWhite » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:02 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:18z GFS considerably moving up the time frame for TC genesis, now has a tropical storm in the eastern Caribbean by Thursday morning.

You know what they say about 18Z GFS...
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#29 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:06 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:18z GFS considerably moving up the time frame for TC genesis, now has a tropical storm in the eastern Caribbean by Thursday morning.


Let's see if the 00z run repeats that.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#30 Postby SFLcane » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:07 pm

WalterWhite wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:18z GFS considerably moving up the time frame for TC genesis, now has a tropical storm in the eastern Caribbean by Thursday morning.

You know what they say about 18Z GFS...


Yes they said the same thing about the 12z run lol. I think the gfs has the pegged just not sure about track or intensity yet.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#31 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:14 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:18z GFS considerably moving up the time frame for TC genesis, now has a tropical storm in the eastern Caribbean by Thursday morning.


Let's see if the 00z run repeats that.


Heading straight for nicaragua/honduras. Violent hurricane.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#32 Postby SFLcane » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:20 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:18z GFS considerably moving up the time frame for TC genesis, now has a tropical storm in the eastern Caribbean by Thursday morning.


Let's see if the 00z run repeats that.


Heading straight for nicaragua/honduras. Violent hurricane.


Nope turns north.
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#33 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:20 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:18z GFS considerably moving up the time frame for TC genesis, now has a tropical storm in the eastern Caribbean by Thursday morning.


That's because it seems to get its act together much quicker than the prior run.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#34 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:21 pm

SFLcane wrote::eek:

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#35 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:21 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:18z GFS considerably moving up the time frame for TC genesis, now has a tropical storm in the eastern Caribbean by Thursday morning.


Let's see if the 00z run repeats that.


Heading straight for nicaragua/honduras. Violent hurricane.


Lifted from coast of Honduras.


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#36 Postby Blown Away » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:24 pm

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18z GFS… MH making the N turn towards Cuba/SFL/Bahamas again…
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#37 Postby SFLcane » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:39 pm

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#38 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:47 pm

What’s the water vapor like? Probably going to ingest a lot of continental dry air on approach…
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#39 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:48 pm

If what GFS has comes to fructition, the ACE will reach hyperactive status. Is right now at 145,6 and the 1.59 units is the number to reach and surpass.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#40 Postby REDHurricane » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:28 pm

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Hypercane_Kyle wrote:18z GFS considerably moving up the time frame for TC genesis, now has a tropical storm in the eastern Caribbean by Thursday morning.


That's because it seems to get its act together much quicker than the prior run.


Yep, it looks like whether or not this setup produces a major hurricane will depend almost entirely on the initial consolidation of the disturbance -- if it develops into a TD more quickly like the GFS is predicting, we'll see another late-season Caribbean major that turns north towards Cuba/Florida instead of making landfall with Central America and weakening; if it forms more slowly like the Euro has been showing (but trending away from), we'll probably just get a weak TS that gets steered into Central America before it has a chance to intensify into anything of significance.

My hunch for the past several days has been that a strong hurricane will likely emerge out of this pattern. We've got all the ingredients: anomalously warm/deep water, favorable wind shear environment, large pocket of moisture without dry air intrusion, and a pre-existing disturbance moving into the area. It's almost November and the vast majority of the Caribbean is sitting at or above 30ºC... if the "purpose" of tropical cyclones on Earth is to transport anomalous heat from the tropics poleward and the sea surface upward, then I'd say this would be a perfect opportunity for the atmosphere to do exactly that before the season is over. Of course this doesn't mean anything has to develop for certain, but at this moment all of the ingredients required to cook up a major hurricane appear to be in place, and nature is about to stick the dish in a fully preheated oven -- whatever happens after that is up to chance.

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