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#21 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:09 pm

Let's see, first the 268 MPH gust with Katrina

Now a 98 MPH gust with a tropical depression

I think the Atlantic hates us.. lol
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#22 Postby senorpepr » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:13 pm

Flight Level Data
Storm Name: INVEST (16L)
Mission Number: 01
Flight ID: NOAA2
Flt Data Number:
Latest Ob Location: 115 mi NNW of Nassau, Bahamas

Ob #01: 17:31:00Z; 26.9°N 79°W; PA: 1453 ft; D-Value: 5 ft; Wind: NNW (340°) @ 21 mph; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: NNW (340°) @ 22 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 29 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 1 mm/hr
Ob #02: 17:32:00Z; 26.9°N 79°W; PA: 1454 ft; D-Value: 0 ft; Wind: NNW (348°) @ 23 mph; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 67°F; Max Wind: N (351°) @ 23 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 30 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #03: 17:33:00Z; 26.8°N 78.9°W; PA: 1455 ft; D-Value: -7 ft; Wind: N (353°) @ 23 mph; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 68°F; Max Wind: N (355°) @ 24 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 29 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #04: 17:34:00Z; 26.8°N 78.9°W; PA: 1455 ft; D-Value: -12 ft; Wind: N (350°) @ 24 mph; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: N (349°) @ 24 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 29 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #05: 17:35:00Z; 26.7°N 78.8°W; PA: 1454 ft; D-Value: -17 ft; Wind: NNW (348°) @ 24 mph; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: N (349°) @ 24 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 47 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #06: 17:36:00Z; 26.7°N 78.8°W; PA: 1458 ft; D-Value: -18 ft; Wind: N (352°) @ 24 mph; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: N (352°) @ 24 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 45 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #07: 17:37:00Z; 26.6°N 78.7°W; PA: 1457 ft; D-Value: -16 ft; Wind: N (350°) @ 21 mph; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 68°F; Max Wind: N (350°) @ 22 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #08: 17:38:00Z; 26.6°N 78.7°W; PA: 1455 ft; D-Value: -22 ft; Wind: NNW (347°) @ 20 mph; Temp: 75°F; Dewpt: 67°F; Max Wind: N (351°) @ 21 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 54 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #09: 17:39:00Z; 26.6°N 78.6°W; PA: 1449 ft; D-Value: -29 ft; Wind: NNW (334°) @ 17 mph; Temp: 76°F; Dewpt: 67°F; Max Wind: NNW (327°) @ 17 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 106 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 3 mm/hr
Ob #10: 17:40:00Z; 26.7°N 78.5°W; PA: 1447 ft; D-Value: -15 ft; Wind: NW (314°) @ 13 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 68°F; Max Wind: NW (322°) @ 16 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 104 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 68 mm/hr
Ob #11: 17:41:00Z; 26.7°N 78.5°W; PA: 1451 ft; D-Value: -32 ft; Wind: NW (306°) @ 9 mph; Temp: 76°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: NW (309°) @ 12 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 105 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 2 mm/hr
Ob #12: 17:42:00Z; 26.8°N 78.5°W; PA: 1452 ft; D-Value: -29 ft; Wind: WNW (300°) @ 6 mph; Temp: 75°F; Dewpt: 70°F; Max Wind: WNW (297°) @ 7 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 53 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #13: 17:43:00Z; 26.8°N 78.4°W; PA: 1457 ft; D-Value: -25 ft; Wind: NW (311°) @ 7 mph; Temp: 75°F; Dewpt: 70°F; Max Wind: NW (315°) @ 8 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 40 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #14: 17:44:00Z; 26.9°N 78.4°W; PA: 1461 ft; D-Value: -23 ft; Wind: W (269°) @ 3 mph; Temp: 76°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: NW (310°) @ 5 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 43 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #15: 17:45:00Z; 26.9°N 78.3°W; PA: 1460 ft; D-Value: -26 ft; Wind: SSW (197°) @ 2 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: S (189°) @ 3 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 43 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #16: 17:46:00Z; 26.8°N 78.3°W; PA: 1491 ft; D-Value: -28 ft; Wind: SSE (155°) @ 0 mph; Temp: 76°F; Dewpt: 70°F; Max Wind: SSW (207°) @ 1 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 43 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #17: 17:47:00Z; 26.8°N 78.2°W; PA: 1489 ft; D-Value: -34 ft; Wind: WSW (246°) @ 3 mph; Temp: 75°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: WSW (242°) @ 8 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 53 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 4 mm/hr
Ob #18: 17:48:00Z; 26.7°N 78.2°W; PA: 1495 ft; D-Value: -36 ft; Wind: S (173°) @ 5 mph; Temp: 76°F; Dewpt: 72°F; Max Wind: S (178°) @ 6 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 71 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 2 mm/hr
Ob #19: 17:49:00Z; 26.7°N 78.1°W; PA: 1490 ft; D-Value: -25 ft; Wind: SE (146°) @ 3 mph; Temp: 76°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: S (172°) @ 6 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: N/A mph; SFMR Rain Rate: N/A mm/hr
Ob #20: 17:50:00Z; 26.6°N 78.1°W; PA: 1495 ft; D-Value: -36 ft; Wind: S (175°) @ 7 mph; Temp: 75°F; Dewpt: 73°F; Max Wind: S (181°) @ 13 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 65 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 4 mm/hr
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#23 Postby Eyes2theSkies » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:14 pm

what does smfr suf wind stand for?
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#24 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:18 pm

It is the much hailed Microwave Data sensor on the NOAA plane that can sense surface winds.

I think I'm having doubts about this product...
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#25 Postby senorpepr » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:18 pm

Eyes2theSkies wrote:what does smfr suf wind stand for?


SFMR = Stepped Frequency Microwave Radiometer
Sfc = Surface

SFMR Sfc Wind = the surface winds as recorded from microwave sensors
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#26 Postby Eyes2theSkies » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:19 pm

thanks.
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#27 Postby senorpepr » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:21 pm

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
Storm Name: INVEST OB 03 (16L)
Mission Number: 01
Flight ID: NOAA2
Observation Number:
Time: 1745Z
Latitude: 26.8°N
Longitude: 78.4°W
Location: 105 mi E of West Palm Beach, Florida
Minimum height at NA
Est. Surface Winds Observed: 23 mph
Distance and bearing from center to max surface wind: 81 mi NW (315°)
Maximum flight level wind: N (349°) @ 23 mph
Distance and bearing from center to max flight level wind: 25 mi WSW (239°)
Sea level pressure: EXTRAP 1010 MB
Dewpoint temperature inside the eye: 70°F
Eye character: NA
Eye shape: NA
Eye diameter: NA
Fix determined by: Penetration Wind Pressure at 1,500 ft
Navigation / Met Accuracy: 1/7 NM
MAX FL WIND 20 KTS W QUAD 1735Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 1500 FT
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#28 Postby Coredesat » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:24 pm

23 MPH...that's not quite enough for it to be a depression.
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#29 Postby senorpepr » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:27 pm

Team Ragnarok wrote:23 MPH...that's not quite enough for it to be a depression.


It will still be carried as a depression. A) the wind requirements are only less than 34kt, B) it has the qualities of a tropical cyclones, C) they should find stronger winds in the NE side.
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#30 Postby Stormtrack03 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:28 pm

That is the west quadrant... not the northeast quad where the winds are probly slightly stronger
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#31 Postby Frank2 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:32 pm

Sounds like that earlier 98 mph wind gust was a mistake, considering the rest of the ob data does not support such a strong wind...

Frank

P.S. Considering the vortex message posted since I first posted this a few minutes ago, that earlier 98 mph wind really does sound like an error...
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#32 Postby senorpepr » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:42 pm

Flight Level Data
Storm Name: INVEST (16L)
Mission Number: 01
Flight ID: NOAA2
Flt Data Number:
Latest Ob Location: 60 mi N of Nassau, Bahamas

Ob #01: 18:01:00Z; 26.2°N 77.6°W; PA: 1504 ft; D-Value: -11 ft; Wind: S (188°) @ 26 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: S (188°) @ 28 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 51 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #02: 18:02:00Z; 26.1°N 77.6°W; PA: 1503 ft; D-Value: -10 ft; Wind: S (191°) @ 26 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: SSW (194°) @ 28 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 68 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 2 mm/hr
Ob #03: 18:03:00Z; 26.1°N 77.5°W; PA: 1504 ft; D-Value: -1 ft; Wind: SSW (192°) @ 25 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: SSW (193°) @ 26 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 52 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #04: 18:04:00Z; 26°N 77.5°W; PA: 1504 ft; D-Value: 5 ft; Wind: SSW (194°) @ 24 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 70°F; Max Wind: S (191°) @ 25 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #05: 18:05:00Z; 26°N 77.4°W; PA: 1482 ft; D-Value: 8 ft; Wind: S (191°) @ 23 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: S (191°) @ 24 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #06: 18:06:00Z; 26°N 77.4°W; PA: 1457 ft; D-Value: 9 ft; Wind: S (188°) @ 21 mph; Temp: 78°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: S (190°) @ 23 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #07: 18:07:00Z; 25.9°N 77.3°W; PA: 1457 ft; D-Value: 11 ft; Wind: S (186°) @ 21 mph; Temp: 78°F; Dewpt: 70°F; Max Wind: S (188°) @ 22 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 47 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
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#33 Postby senorpepr » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:57 pm

RECCO Observation
Storm Name: INVEST OB 04 (16L)
Mission Number: 01
Flight ID: NOAA2
Observation Number: 04
Time: 1818Z
Latitude: 25.8°N
Longitude: 76.9°W
Location: 63 mi NE of Nassau, Bahamas
Turbulence: None
Flight condition: Clear
Pressure Altitude: 1500 feet
Flight level wind: S (180°) @ 24 mph
Temperature: 77°F
Dewpoint: 72°F
Weather: Overcast Skies
Sea level pressure: 1011 mb
Surface Wind: N/A
Remarks: None
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#34 Postby Steve H. » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:09 pm

Wonder if it will lose its TD status. Not a whole lot there and the overall structure of the system, which looked good earlier today, is looking awful right now.
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#35 Postby senorpepr » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:18 pm

Flight Level Data
Storm Name: INVEST (16L)
Mission Number: 01
Flight ID: NOAA2
Flt Data Number:
Latest Ob Location: 207 mi N of Nassau, Bahamas

Ob #01: 18:31:00Z; 26.7°N 76.9°W; PA: 1464 ft; D-Value: 12 ft; Wind: S (174°) @ 25 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 72°F; Max Wind: S (172°) @ 26 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #02: 18:32:00Z; 26.8°N 76.9°W; PA: 1462 ft; D-Value: 11 ft; Wind: S (171°) @ 25 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 72°F; Max Wind: S (174°) @ 25 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #03: 18:33:00Z; 26.9°N 76.9°W; PA: 1459 ft; D-Value: 10 ft; Wind: S (171°) @ 26 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 72°F; Max Wind: S (173°) @ 28 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 50 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #04: 18:34:00Z; 26.9°N 76.9°W; PA: 1458 ft; D-Value: 8 ft; Wind: SSE (166°) @ 26 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: SSE (164°) @ 26 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 50 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #05: 18:35:00Z; 27°N 77°W; PA: 1460 ft; D-Value: 9 ft; Wind: SSE (163°) @ 25 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: SSE (161°) @ 25 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 46 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #06: 18:36:00Z; 27.1°N 77°W; PA: 1459 ft; D-Value: 11 ft; Wind: SSE (162°) @ 25 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: SSE (165°) @ 26 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #07: 18:37:00Z; 27.1°N 77°W; PA: 1460 ft; D-Value: 11 ft; Wind: SSE (160°) @ 26 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 72°F; Max Wind: SSE (159°) @ 26 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 47 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #08: 18:38:00Z; 27.2°N 77°W; PA: 1457 ft; D-Value: 9 ft; Wind: SSE (162°) @ 26 mph; Temp: 76°F; Dewpt: 72°F; Max Wind: SSE (162°) @ 28 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 47 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #09: 18:39:00Z; 27.3°N 77°W; PA: 1459 ft; D-Value: 9 ft; Wind: SSE (163°) @ 26 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: SSE (166°) @ 28 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #10: 18:40:00Z; 27.3°N 77°W; PA: 1459 ft; D-Value: 9 ft; Wind: SSE (164°) @ 25 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 70°F; Max Wind: SSE (165°) @ 26 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #11: 18:41:00Z; 27.4°N 77°W; PA: 1461 ft; D-Value: 10 ft; Wind: SSE (164°) @ 24 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: SSE (166°) @ 25 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 50 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #12: 18:42:00Z; 27.5°N 77°W; PA: 1460 ft; D-Value: 11 ft; Wind: SSE (161°) @ 23 mph; Temp: 78°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: SSE (163°) @ 24 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 47 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #13: 18:43:00Z; 27.5°N 77°W; PA: 1460 ft; D-Value: 15 ft; Wind: SSE (159°) @ 22 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 70°F; Max Wind: SSE (159°) @ 23 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 46 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #14: 18:44:00Z; 27.6°N 77°W; PA: 1459 ft; D-Value: 17 ft; Wind: SSE (158°) @ 24 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: SSE (158°) @ 24 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 46 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #15: 18:45:00Z; 27.7°N 77°W; PA: 1459 ft; D-Value: 19 ft; Wind: SSE (159°) @ 23 mph; Temp: 78°F; Dewpt: 68°F; Max Wind: SSE (160°) @ 24 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #16: 18:46:00Z; 27.7°N 77°W; PA: 1460 ft; D-Value: 22 ft; Wind: SSE (154°) @ 21 mph; Temp: 78°F; Dewpt: 67°F; Max Wind: SSE (160°) @ 22 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 47 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #17: 18:47:00Z; 27.8°N 77°W; PA: 1460 ft; D-Value: 24 ft; Wind: SSE (149°) @ 21 mph; Temp: 78°F; Dewpt: 67°F; Max Wind: SE (145°) @ 22 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 46 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #18: 18:48:00Z; 27.9°N 77°W; PA: 1459 ft; D-Value: 23 ft; Wind: SSE (147°) @ 22 mph; Temp: 78°F; Dewpt: 67°F; Max Wind: SSE (147°) @ 23 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 48 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #19: 18:49:00Z; 27.9°N 77°W; PA: 1460 ft; D-Value: 23 ft; Wind: SE (145°) @ 21 mph; Temp: 78°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: SE (144°) @ 22 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 46 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #20: 18:50:00Z; 28°N 77°W; PA: 1459 ft; D-Value: 26 ft; Wind: SSE (147°) @ 21 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 69°F; Max Wind: SSE (148°) @ 21 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 47 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr


Flight Level Data
Storm Name: INVEST (16L)
Mission Number: 01
Flight ID: NOAA2
Flt Data Number:
Latest Ob Location: 208 mi ENE of West Palm Beach, Florida

Ob #01: 18:51:00Z; 28.1°N 77°W; PA: 1450 ft; D-Value: 29 ft; Wind: SE (145°) @ 20 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 70°F; Max Wind: SSE (148°) @ 21 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 43 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 1 mm/hr
Ob #02: 18:52:00Z; 28.1°N 77°W; PA: 1454 ft; D-Value: 26 ft; Wind: SE (135°) @ 20 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: SE (132°) @ 22 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 45 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr
Ob #03: 18:53:00Z; 28.1°N 77.1°W; PA: 1460 ft; D-Value: 22 ft; Wind: SE (127°) @ 18 mph; Temp: 77°F; Dewpt: 71°F; Max Wind: SE (125°) @ 20 mph; SFMR Sfc Wind: 47 mph; SFMR Rain Rate: 0 mm/hr


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#36 Postby Brent » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:51 pm

Why is SFMR coming up with tropical storm force surface winds when flight level winds are much much lower?

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#37 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:57 pm

Brent wrote:Why is SFMR coming up with tropical storm force surface winds when flight level winds are much much lower?

:?:



I believe the flight level is an average and the SFMR is a Max. Wind. or gust.
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#38 Postby f5 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:24 pm

lets pray this thing dosen't pull a Katrina
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#39 Postby Hyperstorm » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:39 pm

Brent wrote:Why is SFMR coming up with tropical storm force surface winds when flight level winds are much much lower?

:?:


These sensors need some good adjustments. They reported extremely strong winds (Category 5) in Katrina AS it was making landfall while FL winds reported lower values. I don't trust these instruments at all. FL winds do a much better job even if one has to estimate/convert to surface winds.

Dean...

Those are not peak winds or gusts. Those are surface winds reported in the cyclone by a totally different and relatively new instrument than the one that records FL winds.
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#40 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:50 pm

Hyperstorm wrote:
Brent wrote:Why is SFMR coming up with tropical storm force surface winds when flight level winds are much much lower?

:?:


These sensors need some good adjustments. They reported extremely strong winds (Category 5) in Katrina AS it was making landfall while FL winds reported lower values. I don't trust these instruments at all. FL winds do a much better job even if one has to estimate/convert to surface winds.

Dean...

Those are not peak winds or gusts. Those are surface winds reported in the cyclone by a totally different and relatively new instrument than the one that records FL winds.



Oops, sorry bout that. You are right Hyper.
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