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#21 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:09 pm

is that really a wierd spot? i thought it was somewhat common as is iceland
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#22 Postby wxmann_91 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:12 pm

fact789 wrote:is that really a wierd spot? i thought it was somewhat common as is iceland


I was just joking. It is nearly impossible to get a hurricane into Greenland, or Iceland for that matter.
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#23 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:13 pm

why?
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#24 Postby Astro_man92 » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:28 pm

because the SST's are to low, usually durring the hurricane season if a hurricane/TS goes near that far north they either turn extra tropical or get rupped apart by massive amounts of shear. I don't think even the strongest and luckiest of hurricanes could survive that far north. I think of it as, that region is to hurricanes, what the middle of antartica with no suppyies and protection is to us. please correct me if i'm wrong

Oh and by the way how did you make that map calamity?
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#25 Postby JonathanBelles » Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:04 pm

map calamity?
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#26 Postby johngaltfla » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:32 pm

quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:
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#27 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:20 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.
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#28 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:26 pm

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.
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#29 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:30 pm

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:
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#30 Postby Astro_man92 » Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:44 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:


HUH
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#31 Postby mike815 » Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:45 pm

lol i was like huh too
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#32 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:05 pm

Astro_man92 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:


HUH


Yeah I agree there...HUH is right.
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#33 Postby JonathanBelles » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:08 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
Astro_man92 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:


HUH


Yeah I agree there...HUH is right.


ya lost me
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#34 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:13 pm

fact789 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:
Astro_man92 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:


HUH


Yeah I agree there...HUH is right.


ya lost me


Sorry- My brain was fried from studying for an AP Statistics
Test and I sort of mixed and jumbled it up.

But it's a great application of statistics to hurricanes.

I was really high when I wrote that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....MUWWAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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#35 Postby JonathanBelles » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:28 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
fact789 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:
Astro_man92 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:


HUH


Yeah I agree there...HUH is right.


ya lost me


Sorry- My brain was fried from studying for an AP Statistics
Test and I sort of mixed and jumbled it up.

But it's a great application of statistics to hurricanes.

I was really high when I wrote that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....MUWWAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!


ok....
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#36 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:29 pm

fact789 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
fact789 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:
Astro_man92 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:


HUH


Yeah I agree there...HUH is right.


ya lost me


Sorry- My brain was fried from studying for an AP Statistics
Test and I sort of mixed and jumbled it up.

But it's a great application of statistics to hurricanes.

I was really high when I wrote that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....MUWWAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!


ok....


wow...
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#37 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:31 pm

Well I wasn't high, my previous response was a joke,
but I was just trying to apply
statistical inference to hurricane landfalls. I am passionate about
research in this area.
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#38 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:55 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
fact789 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
fact789 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:
Astro_man92 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:


HUH


Yeah I agree there...HUH is right.


ya lost me


Sorry- My brain was fried from studying for an AP Statistics
Test and I sort of mixed and jumbled it up.

But it's a great application of statistics to hurricanes.

I was really high when I wrote that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....MUWWAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!


ok....


wow...


That some great math skills you've got there Tampa Bay Hurricane. :D Great post.

On the other hand, these nested quotes are really cool. 8-) :P
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#39 Postby JonathanBelles » Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:01 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
fact789 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
fact789 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:
Astro_man92 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:


HUH


Yeah I agree there...HUH is right.


ya lost me


Sorry- My brain was fried from studying for an AP Statistics
Test and I sort of mixed and jumbled it up.

But it's a great application of statistics to hurricanes.

I was really high when I wrote that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....MUWWAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!


ok....


wow...


that box is gonna get really big
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#40 Postby StormScanWx » Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:15 pm

fact789 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:
fact789 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
fact789 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:
Astro_man92 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
quandary wrote:So no part of the basin has been unscathed in the last 2 years.


Ha! Not true! Sarasota, FL remains unscathed. For over 100 plus years now we haven't had a direct hit.

Of course, would I want to wager on us escaping this year? Uh, no.

:eek:


With the exception of tropical storms and
category 1 hurricane conditions, Tampa Bay is relatively unscathed.
There's probability for you...last time a major direct hit took
place was 1921, and before that 1848. Hopefully our luck
won't run out...it would not surprise me either way though
given the extensive number and gradient conditions of variables
that determine the paths of cyclonic systems.

The chance of a direct hit from a major is x%, and depending
on a series of variables x is calculated. But I know of
no way to calculate x, except that x is a very small number,
likely less than 10.

If I attempt to determine this analytically through statistical theory, the
chance of x <10 is greater than 99.7%...you must consider
a range outside of three standard deviations about some
center value- based off a normal curve- but hurricanes
do not follow "normalized" curves...historical data base
comparative analysis illustrates a cyclical nature...
so in short- it is exceedingly complicated and arduous
to determine x.

well folks i need to get some sleep lol :uarrow: :uarrow:


HUH


Yeah I agree there...HUH is right.


ya lost me


Sorry- My brain was fried from studying for an AP Statistics
Test and I sort of mixed and jumbled it up.

But it's a great application of statistics to hurricanes.

I was really high when I wrote that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....MUWWAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!


ok....


wow...


that box is gonna get really big


I think I'll add one more quote box thingy.
I want to dedicate this post to Hurricane Opal of 1995. :lol:
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