Gulf Coast Disturbance (early August)

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#201 Postby stormlover2013 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:56 pm

This will be a very good rain maker!!! Be careful on the roads
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#202 Postby psyclone » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:09 pm

Flood watch for the nature coast with some eye popping rain estimates:
...FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL HAS
ISSUED A

* FLOOD WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHERN FLORIDA AND WEST CENTRAL
FLORIDA...INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING AREAS...IN NORTHERN
FLORIDA...COASTAL LEVY AND INLAND LEVY. IN WEST CENTRAL
FLORIDA...COASTAL CITRUS...COASTAL HERNANDO...COASTAL PASCO...
INLAND CITRUS...INLAND HERNANDO AND INLAND PASCO.

* THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING

* NUMEROUS TO WIDESPREAD SHOWERS AND SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ARE
ONGOING ACROSS THE NATURE COAST TODAY AND ARE EXPECTED TO
CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS. CONDITIONS WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF
LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 6 TO 10 INCHES...WITH 10 TO 15
INCHES POSSIBLE NEAR THE COAST AND LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS
POSSIBLE.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#203 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:13 pm

SSD has put up a Invest floater but ATCF has not designated it as Invest98L.

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http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... oater.html

ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/btk/

ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#204 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:14 pm

I imagine some warnings will be going up for Franklin County. Apalachicola has got the rain train going on right now. North to south of course. 8-)
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#205 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:23 pm

This will slide west along the northern gulf coast. Insane rain totals expected along the northern gulf coast
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#206 Postby JtSmarts » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:31 pm

Any thoughts from our resident mets?
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#207 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:52 pm

Well even if this did get tagged a TC it looks like it would never be much more than a heavy rain threat with maybe some gales as it is just to close to land.

With all the models abandoning TC development I can see why the NHC lowered the chance.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#208 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:58 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Well even if this did get tagged a TC it looks like it would never be much more than a heavy rain threat with maybe some gales as it is just to close to land.

With all the models abandoning TC development I can see why the NHC lowered the chance.

i see more of any thing as rainy maker ((The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such.))
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#209 Postby KatDaddy » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:14 pm

Looking a little better this afternoon and looks to become a huge rainmaker event along the N and NE GOM. Thankfully its not well offshore in the GOM and remains close to land.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#210 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:20 pm

It looks like the center of the Vort is now inland maybe near Perry, FL at some point it is expected to turn back westward and looks like it stays inland if it does so.


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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#211 Postby ATCcane » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:23 pm

rolltide wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:This will slide west along the northern gulf coast. Insane rain totals expected along the northern gulf coast


Come on Michael, You should know to post the disclaimer


Ummm.....


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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#212 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:24 pm

Circulation is not at the surface yet per surface reports, pressures have fallen a little during the past 24-48 hrs but still fairly high. Big outflow boundary went through Tampa before the squall line came through thus the squall died out, same thing here in Orlando.

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#213 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:28 pm

NDG wrote:Circulation is not at the surface yet per surface reports, pressures have fallen a little during the past 24-48 hrs but still fairly high. Big outflow boundary went through Tampa before the squall line came through thus the squall died out, same thing here in Orlando.

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/ndgarcia/ndgarcia067/CODNEXLAB-1km-Florida-rad-ani24-201608062115-100-100-raw_zpsxqgsdfms.gif[/mg]


The surface circ is there just very broad and elongated so looking at radar from multiple site and at different level in the atmosphere will make such a not stacked system look really disorganized( which is still but getting better)
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#214 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:32 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
NDG wrote:Circulation is not at the surface yet per surface reports, pressures have fallen a little during the past 24-48 hrs but still fairly high. Big outflow boundary went through Tampa before the squall line came through thus the squall died out, same thing here in Orlando.

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/ndgarcia/ndgarcia067/CODNEXLAB-1km-Florida-rad-ani24-201608062115-100-100-raw_zpsxqgsdfms.gif[/mg]


The surface circ is there just very broad and elongated so looking at radar from multiple site and at different level in the atmosphere will make such a not stacked system look really disorganized( which is still but getting better)


All the outflows including along the FL Panhandle to the big bend area is a good indication that the circulation is above the surface at the moment. IMO.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#215 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:35 pm

rolltide wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:This will slide west along the northern gulf coast. Insane rain totals expected along the northern gulf coast


Come on Michael, You should know to post the disclaimer


Disclaimer is no longer required, there's a sticky post updating the rule.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#216 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:36 pm

NHC still has yet to officially classify this system as 98L. I wonder if they will finally do it or are they seeing that this system being too close to land will keep them from classifying this system?
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#217 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:40 pm

NDG wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
NDG wrote:Circulation is not at the surface yet per surface reports, pressures have fallen a little during the past 24-48 hrs but still fairly high. Big outflow boundary went through Tampa before the squall line came through thus the squall died out, same thing here in Orlando.

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/ndgarcia/ndgarcia067/CODNEXLAB-1km-Florida-rad-ani24-201608062115-100-100-raw_zpsxqgsdfms.gif[/mg]


The surface circ is there just very broad and elongated so looking at radar from multiple site and at different level in the atmosphere will make such a not stacked system look really disorganized( which is still but getting better)


All the outflows including along the FL Panhandle to the big bend area is a good indication that the circulation is above the surface at the moment. IMO.


yeah this happens all the time when a system is forming near the coast. the sea breezes and constant collapsing of convection ( with outflow boundaries) always get brought up. right now the system is not organized enough to effect the sea breezes as they have more energy localized than the broad weak systems. not until the pressure can drop enough will that stop.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#218 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:45 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
NDG wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
The surface circ is there just very broad and elongated so looking at radar from multiple site and at different level in the atmosphere will make such a not stacked system look really disorganized( which is still but getting better)


All the outflows including along the FL Panhandle to the big bend area is a good indication that the circulation is above the surface at the moment. IMO.


yeah this happens all the time when a system is forming near the coast. the sea breezes and constant collapsing of convection ( with outflow boundaries) always get brought up. right now the system is not organized enough to effect the sea breezes as they have more energy localized than the broad weak systems. not until the pressure can drop enough will that stop.


I agree, it makes sense. Even on vis satellite loop it makes it look like we have rebust surface circulation but is not there yet.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#219 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:51 pm

NDG wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
yeah this happens all the time when a system is forming near the coast. the sea breezes and constant collapsing of convection ( with outflow boundaries) always get brought up. right now the system is not organized enough to effect the sea breezes as they have more energy localized than the broad weak systems. not until the pressure can drop enough will that stop.


I agree, it makes sense. Even on vis satellite loop it makes it look like we have rebust surface circulation but is not there yet.


Typically what happens is during the day it looks like we lose the surface circ do to all the sea breezes and outflows. but its still there in a broad sense and during the night when the heat energy from the sun is gone and temperature gradient equalizes we see circulations become more defined again.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#220 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:13 pm

Hopefully it gets classified as 98L or 99L soon just so that we can get more model runs...
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