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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#201 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:42 pm

A broad area of low pressure is expected to form over the
northwestern Caribbean Sea and the Yucatan peninsula this
weekend. Conditions appear to be favorable for gradual development
of this system while it moves slowly northwestward toward the
southern Gulf of Mexico early next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#202 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:54 pm

12z Euro Parallel has it moving inland just west of Galveston as a TS in 8 days (next Friday).
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#203 Postby ROCK » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:23 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:12z Euro Parallel has it moving inland just west of Galveston as a TS in 8 days (next Friday).


Yep however IMO climo needs to be taken into account. It's June..smells like Mexico..to me..0z GFS or might shed some light..the Texas death ridge never breaks down this early.:)
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#204 Postby Dylan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:28 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:12z Euro Parallel has it moving inland just west of Galveston as a TS in 8 days (next Friday).


Yep, and a very large tropical storm at that, with tropical storm force winds as far to the east as the Mouth of the Mississippi River, and very squally weather even in New Orleans. This is the type of scenario that would cause a lot of coastal flooding for Louisiana's marshes and estuaries.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#205 Postby weatherguy425 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:31 pm

ROCK wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:12z Euro Parallel has it moving inland just west of Galveston as a TS in 8 days (next Friday).


Yep however IMO climo needs to be taken into account. It's June..smells like Mexico..to me..0z GFS or might shed some light..the Texas death ridge never breaks down this early.:)


June climatology doesn't tarnish a TX landfall. Not saying that's the outcome here, but citing June tropical history actually doesn't refute it a landfall north of Mexico.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#206 Postby ROCK » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:33 pm

12z Navgem still won't budge on. FL panhandle scenario. Really blows it up. But it is the Nav.:)
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#207 Postby ROCK » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:38 pm

weatherguy425 wrote:
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South Texas Storms wrote:12z Euro Parallel has it moving inland just west of Galveston as a TS in 8 days (next Friday).


Yep however IMO climo needs to be taken into account. It's June..smells like Mexico..to me..0z GFS or might shed some light..the Texas death ridge never breaks down this early.:)


June climatology doesn't tarnish a TX landfall. Not saying that's the outcome here, but citing June tropical history actually doesn't refute it a landfall north of Mexico.



True that's why I said in my opinion. Euro been sniffing MX for awhile. Only have one run of the Euro showing TX. Have to see at 230am CST tonight if it sticks with it or goes back to MX. If this was Late August or Sept I might chew on NGOM. :)
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#208 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:51 pm

As always Levi does great videos and here is a new one about this future system.Duration is 10:30.

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/blog/201 ... next-week/
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#209 Postby BobHarlem » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:02 pm

ROCK wrote:12z Navgem still won't budge on. FL panhandle scenario. Really blows it up. But it is the Nav.:)


The wave currently off of the north coast of Columbia is the biggest reason I have doubts on the Euro, it's what this and the GFS seems to be grabbing also. That area is a huge mess right now, so I don't trust any of the models, to be honest.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#210 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:22 pm

ROCK wrote:12z Navgem still won't budge on. FL panhandle scenario. Really blows it up. But it is the Nav.:)


Remember always add 180 degrees to the predicted direction of the storm in the NAVGEM model. If NAVGEM says east, for example, it's moving west.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#211 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:33 pm

cycloneye wrote:As always Levi does great videos and here is a new one about this future system.Duration is 10:30.

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/blog/201 ... next-week/


Note that in the 18Z GFS, looking at the same 500mb chart Levi discussed, the GFS has the upper low in the SW Gulf farther southwest and the ridge extending farther east from Texas. Thus the shift westward with the low in the 18Z GFS run.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#212 Postby NDG » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:06 pm

A closer look at today's 12z Euro, big system.

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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#213 Postby sphelps8681 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:31 pm

When will the next update be? Tired of refreshing my screen.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#214 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:41 pm

sphelps8681 wrote:When will the next update be? Tired of refreshing my screen.


The 0z GFS starts running in about an hour, with the Canadian and UKMET in about 2 hours, and the Euro in about 3.5 hours.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#215 Postby ROCK » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:43 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
sphelps8681 wrote:When will the next update be? Tired of refreshing my screen.


The 0z GFS starts running in about an hour, with the Canadian and UKMET in about 2 hours, and the Euro in about 3.5 hours.


Oh the nights where I could stay up until 1am for the Euro..those were the good ole days..:)
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#216 Postby Jagno » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:47 pm

Oh Lord give me patience. FB is already coming alive with worst case scenario's. I wish people would just get their stuff in order, prepare and leave the drama factor out of it. So many people take each model as exact science and law without regards to the fact that the only certainty in the tropics is the uncertainty. It will in fact change many times before it's all said and done.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#217 Postby sphelps8681 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:51 pm

I am 52 been up since 5:30am just a little tired. But this like the movie that can't get going. I understand how it all works and the patience it takes to bring everything all together but if it were a little more along I would be all in for every post. Which would be probably like every couple of minutes as I remember with Rita and Ike. Not that I am in anyway looking for that intense.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#218 Postby sphelps8681 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:00 pm

Jagno wrote:Oh Lord give me patience. FB is already coming alive with worst case scenario's. I wish people would just get their stuff in order, prepare and leave the drama factor out of it. So many people take each model as exact science and law without regards to the fact that the only certainty in the tropics is the uncertainty. It will in fact change many times before it's all said and done.


Never ask for patience because I find you will be definitely put through the test of what patience really means. Been there and done that.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#219 Postby Steve » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:20 pm

Jagno wrote:Oh Lord give me patience. FB is already coming alive with worst case scenario's. I wish people would just get their stuff in order, prepare and leave the drama factor out of it. So many people take each model as exact science and law without regards to the fact that the only certainty in the tropics is the uncertainty. It will in fact change many times before it's all said and done.



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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#220 Postby tropicwatch » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:25 pm

Jagno wrote:Oh Lord give me patience. FB is already coming alive with worst case scenario's. I wish people would just get their stuff in order, prepare and leave the drama factor out of it. So many people take each model as exact science and law without regards to the fact that the only certainty in the tropics is the uncertainty. It will in fact change many times before it's all said and done.


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