Tropical Wave over the SE Bahamas (Is INVEST 91L)

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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#201 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:44 am

Here is a good view of the wave east of the Islands.

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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#202 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:48 am

At 240 hours both the GFS and Euro agree, which is pretty darn rare.

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Even the Canadian has vorticity in the Gulf at 240.

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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#203 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:51 am

Upper level pattern is totally different with the EURO and GFS, Gfs has a strong trough sweeping it up lol acting like its a October weather pattern.
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#204 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:57 am

stormlover2013 wrote:Upper level pattern is totally different with the EURO and GFS, Gfs has a strong trough sweeping it up lol acting like its a October weather pattern.



Not uncommon at all for September. There is a weakness in the northern Gulf, not a strong trough
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#205 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:01 am

The 06z GFS trucks the wave over Cuba/Hispaniola, which is why it stays weak. The Euro's path goes north of the islands, which would result in a stronger system. No way to tell which path will be correct, as both seem equally likely to me.
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#206 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:05 am

AutoPenalti wrote:Not sure where that wave is exactly...

https://i.imgur.com/d1OHqXQ.gif

that what i was asking on mon their no wavr if one it very weak in area were tropical wave supoose be at
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#207 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:06 am

floridasun78 wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Not sure where that wave is exactly...

https://i.imgur.com/d1OHqXQ.gif

rhat what i was asking on mon their no wavr if one it very weak in area were tropical wave supoose be at


The wave axis is located at ~53W and generating limited showers and thunderstorms.
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#208 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:08 am

There is #1.

@AndyHazelton
Two areas to watch in the Atlantic coming up. #1 is this wave approaching the Antilles. Doesn't look like much ATM, but ECMWF/GFS both suggest development possible in the Bahamas/Gulf. #2 is a wave moving off Africa soon with strong model signal. Active wavetrain behind as well.


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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#209 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:11 am

*If* I'm reading the Euro right, there appears to be an area of vorticity near Hispaniola that the wave axis picks up enroute to the Bahamas. Not a simple genesis.
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#210 Postby nativefloridian » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:14 am

cycloneye wrote:There is #1.

@AndyHazelton
Two areas to watch in the Atlantic coming up. #1 is this wave approaching the Antilles. Doesn't look like much ATM, but ECMWF/GFS both suggest development possible in the Bahamas/Gulf. #2 is a wave moving off Africa soon with strong model signal. Active wavetrain behind as well.


https://i.imgur.com/PiACLvG.jpg

https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status ... 6634896385


So are we to assume the blob in between is insignificant and should be ignored? I guess there's a reason for which some of us, like myself, are not aware of and if someone could shed some light on why, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#211 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:14 am

I know models don’t see this taking off until the Gulf, but I don’t like the idea of having an organizing wave off the SE FL coast in 5-6 days. Breaking out the bookmarks...
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#212 Postby Bocadude85 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:14 am

Definitely need to keep a eye on this wave, the Bahamas are a breeding ground for strong storms. Looks like Florida may have to deal with a TS and the gulf may be dealing with a hurricane.
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#213 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:18 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:The 06z GFS trucks the wave over Cuba/Hispaniola, which is why it stays weak. The Euro's path goes north of the islands, which would result in a stronger system. No way to tell which path will be correct, as both seem equally likely to me.



Not to mention Euro ensembles have a heavy presence right into the central and northern FL peninsula.
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#214 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:18 am

@RyanMaue
Weather models have flipped the switch on the Atlantic hurricane season & see multiple areas of development possible starting mainly this weekend.

*Need to watch Tropical Wave off South Florida / Bahamas
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#215 Postby wxman57 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:20 am

nativefloridian wrote:
cycloneye wrote:There is #1.

@AndyHazelton
Two areas to watch in the Atlantic coming up. #1 is this wave approaching the Antilles. Doesn't look like much ATM, but ECMWF/GFS both suggest development possible in the Bahamas/Gulf. #2 is a wave moving off Africa soon with strong model signal. Active wavetrain behind as well.


https://i.imgur.com/PiACLvG.jpg

https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status ... 6634896385


So are we to assume the blob in between is insignificant and should be ignored? I guess there's a reason for which some of us, like myself, are not aware of and if someone could shed some light on why, it would be greatly appreciated.

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The "blob" is an area of convection between two tropical waves (inverted trofs). You don't typically look there for tropical development. Look to the crests of the waves.
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#216 Postby nativefloridian » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:21 am

wxman57 wrote:
nativefloridian wrote:
cycloneye wrote:There is #1.

@AndyHazelton
Two areas to watch in the Atlantic coming up. #1 is this wave approaching the Antilles. Doesn't look like much ATM, but ECMWF/GFS both suggest development possible in the Bahamas/Gulf. #2 is a wave moving off Africa soon with strong model signal. Active wavetrain behind as well.


https://i.imgur.com/PiACLvG.jpg

https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status ... 6634896385


So are we to assume the blob in between is insignificant and should be ignored? I guess there's a reason for which some of us, like myself, are not aware of and if someone could shed some light on why, it would be greatly appreciated.

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The "blob" is an area of convection between two tropical waves (inverted trofs). You don't typically look there for tropical development. Look to the crests of the waves.


Thank you for clarifying! :)
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#217 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:24 am

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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#218 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:27 am

going to be interesting once it gets on GOM, always timing, ridge looks stout so we shall see. GFS has been up and down with this for the last 4 days, Euro been consisting of a strong wave getting into gulf.
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#219 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:30 am

I think NHC will begin to mention it in TWO if not today definitly on Wednesday.
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Re: Tropical Wave approaching Lesser Antilles

#220 Postby Gustywind » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:44 am

cycloneye wrote:I think NHC will begin to mention it in TWO if not today definitly on Wednesday.

Looks like too i think :roll: . Given our local Pro Mets, Wednesday should be a very humid and rainy day! Moderate too high rainfall values are even expected?
Frequents strong showers and tstorms are expected already tonight afternoon till Thursday. I will keep informed if anything happens in Guadeloupe. Let's wait and see.
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