Potential in the GOM?

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#221 Postby A1A » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:42 pm

The navy model is showing some tropical activity coming ashore on the middle Texas Coast this week-end:

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/ww3_cgi/cgi- ... sig_wav_ht
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Re: Potential in the GOM?

#222 Postby lrak » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:23 am

http://www.lajollasurf.org/images/caanim.gif

A1A I saw the same thing from this wave model, I wonder if its just some big winds coming across from the Caribbean. The arrows never point to the south during the animation like they do when a storm enters the Gulf.
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#223 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:39 am

I'd guess a Navy wave model would probably be based off the NoGaps, or maybe the GFS, and neither implies anything looking like a TC then.


I'd guess wind surge.
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#224 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:43 am

Relevant snip of NWS KBRO AFD

.MARINE...AT 200 AM BUOY 020 REPORTED ESE WINDS AT AROUND 10 KNOTS
WITH SEAS JUST BELOW 2 FEET. MARINE CONDITIONS TO REMAIN FAVORABLE
NEXT SEVERAL DAYS WITH EXCEPTION OF DAILY ISOLATED TO SCATTERED
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. NATURALLY WINDS AND SEAS WILL BE STRONGER
AND ROUGH IN AND NEAR ANY OF THE CONVECTION. FORECAST MODELS ARE
BEGINNING TO SUGGEST A DEVELOPING MODERATE SWELL TRAIN OVER THE BAY
OF CAMPECHE LATE TONIGHT AND THURSDAY AS WINDS INCREASE IN THAT
REGION DUE TO THE PASSAGE OF A TROPICAL WAVE.
THE SOUTHEAST WINDS
MAY ALLOW FOR SOME OF THIS SWELL TO WORK ITS WAY INTO THE LOWER
TEXAS COASTAL WATERS LATER THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY...IF IN DEED IT DOES
DEVELOP. FORECAST SHOWS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE SEAS BUT LATER
SHIFTS MAY ADJUST LOWER OR EVEN HIGHER DEPENDING ON WHAT ACTUALLY
DEVELOPS.
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Re: Potential in the GOM?

#225 Postby lrak » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:48 am

Couldn't ask for anything better a little rain and a small wave machine for the 4th of July weekend :D
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#226 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:50 am

There is convection in the gulf but how is the shear tendency?
Also stalled fronts tend to take a long time to become anything, chances are small but there if shear is low enough?
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Re: Potential in the GOM?

#227 Postby srainhoutx » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:22 am

N/NW GOM looks to be an Upper level Trough and the northern axis of Tropical Wave. Snipet from HPC thiss morning...

THE 00Z GUIDANCE WAS QUITE SIMILAR DURING THE
MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD. THE MODELS ARE COMING INTO BETTER AGREEMENT
CONCERNING THE ORGANIZATION OF A RETROGRADING UPPER LOW MOVING
FROM THE NORTH-CENTRAL THROUGH THE NORTHWEST GULF COASTS INTO
TEXAS DURING THIS PERIOD.
IN TANDEM WITH ITS ASSOCIATED SURFACE
TROUGH...MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINS ARE EXPECTED FROM THE MISSISSIPPI
DELTA WESTWARD EARLY NEXT WEEK.

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/preepd/preepd.html
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#228 Postby Stratosphere747 » Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:06 pm

For continuity -

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Re: Potential in the GOM?

#229 Postby LaBreeze » Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:14 pm

Interesting scenario. We'll have to wait and see. I hope that the July 4th weekend isn't a washout. Keep us informed everyone.
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#230 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:29 pm

maybe something to watch .. in the western gulf right now..
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Re: Potential in the GOM?

#231 Postby KatDaddy » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:38 pm

There does seem to be a a hint of a mid level rotation this afternoon. If its still there tomorrow it might be something to watch.
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Re: Potential in the GOM?

#232 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:42 pm

Suspect looking area south of Louisiana right now. Let's see if it persists into tomorrow.

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/gulfvs.html
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#233 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:19 pm

There is some moderate convection along the old bondary which may need to be watched if it starts to show any hint of circulation getting lower down. I suppose that this may bear watching!
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#234 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:21 pm

That area south of LA is pretty interesting. I can't wait to see how it looks by tomorrow morning.
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Re: Potential in the GOM?

#235 Postby dixiebreeze » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:42 pm

The GOM has been stirring for some time now. Won't take too much.
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#236 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:42 pm

CIMSS suggests shear has lightened a tad, but is still between 20 and 30 knots, not favorable for development. 18Z GFS suggests shear remains high outside the Bay of Campeche the next week.
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Re: Potential in the GOM?

#237 Postby LaBreeze » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:08 pm

Local met mentioned this evening that the moisture south of LA will be moving in to LA over the next few days and rainfall chances would be going up for the 4th. Strange looking dark clouds came in late this afternoon and then vanished without any moisture as the sun set. Humidity is in full swing (soupy).
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#238 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:25 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:That area south of LA is pretty interesting. I can't wait to see how it looks by tomorrow morning.


If it persists, it does deserve to be watched. This time of year, many tropical systems form in the Gulf of Mexico.
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#239 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:58 pm

I don't see anything here besides earlier convection from left over trough, surface pressures are high, southerly winds all across the northern gulf with no indication of any cyclonic trough left behind.
Area to watch might be in the BOC later this week or next week.
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#240 Postby KatDaddy » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:49 am

Joe B has some concerns for the W and NW GOM early next week as the MJO pulse continues.
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