Gulf Coast Disturbance (early August)

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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#221 Postby dixiebreeze » Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:51 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... oater.html

Northeast Gulf disturbance now an Invest.


Edit: It's showing up as an Invest on the SSD page, not on NRL or in the BT database, so it isn't truly an Invest yet - admin.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#222 Postby HurricaneBelle » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:00 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:That is some biblical rain heading to Tampa


Barely rained here in the immediate Tampa Bay area (Pinellas/Hillsborough). As has been the case for the last couple of days with this system, most of the precip stayed to the north and the stuff over the Gulf poofed out by late afternoon.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#223 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:04 pm

See a small vort near Perry, FL and it now appears to be drifting west. If it moves at all WSW this will get over water.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#224 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:09 pm

Also wonder if the Ridge this evening extending east from TX is not getting beat back by the MCS now diving SSE thru MS from Arkansas which might be the trigger to allow this to drift back westward?
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#225 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:13 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:See a small vort near Perry, FL and it now appears to be drifting west. If it moves at all WSW this will get over water.


I see it offshore horseshoe beach. pretty clearly on radar. still very broad..
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#226 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:24 pm

Hurricanebelle...I'm in temple terrace and not a drop yet!!
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#227 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:31 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:See a small vort near Perry, FL and it now appears to be drifting west. If it moves at all WSW this will get over water.


I see it offshore horseshoe beach. pretty clearly on radar. still very broad..


there is also possibly multiple little vorts out there. rotating around a very elongated circ.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#228 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:33 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:Pressures at buoy 42036 have been falling and they have 15kt winds out of the WSW

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42036

That buoy is very close to where the link bamajammer4eva posted shows a center

https://www.windyty.com/?namConus,gust,29.198,-83.897,8


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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#229 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:00 pm

A stationary trough of low pressure continues to produce widespread
cloudiness and disorganized thunderstorms over the northeastern Gulf
of Mexico and Apalachee Bay. Some increase in organization is
possible during the next day or two before the system moves inland
over the southeastern United States. Regardless of development,
heavy rainfall is expected over portions of the northern and central
Florida peninsula, as well as much of the Florida panhandle.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#230 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:15 pm

Any circulation would appear to be within 25 miles of shore so maybe thats why the North side has no weather? Wouldn't this need to move to about 100 miles or so offshore to have a little breathing room to get anything going??
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#231 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:26 pm

Nam at 18z ejects a piece at 850mb which was probably the piece gfs was showing around South Carolina from a couple of days ago. That rains out inland along the coast and intact against a push from offshore. Meanwhile a new low forms at 850 off the Panhandle and moves into Southern Alabama as a new pulse is near the mouth of the river. That's a lot going on at the surface, but the one I have only goes 4 days. At 500 the low moves into South Florida so it's nothing real stacked as the nam sees it but it's got at least 2 watchable surface lows. We will know by Wednesday how it did.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#232 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:37 pm

Steve wrote:Nam at 18z ejects a piece at 850mb which was probably the piece gfs was showing around South Carolina from a couple of days ago. That rains out inland along the coast and intact against a push from offshore. Meanwhile a new low forms at 850 off the Panhandle and moves into Southern Alabama as a new pulse is near the mouth of the river. That's a lot going on at the surface, but the one I have only goes 4 days. At 500 the low moves into South Florida so it's nothing real stacked as the nam sees it but it's got at least 2 watchable surface lows. We will know by Wednesday how it did.



yeah the steering if something does develop would drift south. a weak low level system would likely wobble around before lifting northerly.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#233 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:41 pm

bamajammer4eva wrote:Any circulation would appear to be within 25 miles of shore so maybe thats why the North side has no weather? Wouldn't this need to move to about 100 miles or so offshore to have a little breathing room to get anything going??



it would help with the influence of the land heating differential. otherwise florida is flat and moisture is abundant. as long as the center remains offshore it can organize.. albeit slower
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#234 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:00 pm

ENE wind and pressure falling now at 29.87" at Keaton Bch. C-Man station....

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=ktnf1
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#235 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:00 pm

its definitely sitting off horseshoe beach and becoming more defined
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#236 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:02 pm

very easy to to see now..especially on doppler velocity
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#237 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:07 pm

you saying due west of horseshoe beach? I watched a vortice spin into perry right before sunset. so wonder if this is taking over?
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#238 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:10 pm

850mb vorticity is increasing. The ECMWF predicted this and also shows this vorticity moving inland over north Florida overnight and into tomorrow am

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#239 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:10 pm

stormhunter7 wrote:you saying due west of horseshoe beach? I watched a vortice spin into perry right before sunset. so wonder if this is taking over?

yeah I watched that too.I imagine there have been multiple vorts around. this one however has convection and clearly its beginning to tighten.
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Re: Northeastern Gulf of Mexico

#240 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:16 pm

watch the cedar key station for pressure falls
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