2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#221 Postby Steve » Wed May 31, 2017 10:54 pm

That makes sense because it would be the mid and upper level moisture propagating across anyway. Already tonight there have been SW to NE bands set up across SE and SC LA which I think is indicative of the current flow. Local met was talking about rain through next Monday night.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#222 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:03 am

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#223 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:56 am

CMC develops 2 Hurricanes in the in the next 10 days
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#224 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:16 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:CMC develops 2 Hurricanes in the in the next 10 days

I can believe that we will have one tropical storm in the next ten days but two hurricanes? That'd shock me.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#225 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:26 pm

CMC 12z develops what appears to be energy from TWO-E and traverses the GOM intensifying into a moderate TS within 7 days.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#226 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:40 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:CMC 12z develops what appears to be energy from TWO-E and traverses the GOM intensifying into a moderate TS within 7 days.

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It seems to be ignoring the shear. 8-)
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#227 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:55 pm

Cmc on crack like always lol
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#228 Postby NDG » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:18 pm

12z Euro a little more bullish with development in the BOC.

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#229 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:34 pm

look like june could be active models if are right and july could be active too
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#230 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:08 pm

CMC may not be that crazy, Euro shows a strong TS making landfall over Eastern Florida (but it's still 200+hrs out).
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#231 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:32 pm

Kingarabian wrote:CMC may not be that crazy, Euro shows a strong TS making landfall over Eastern Florida (but it's still 200+hrs out).

Looks to turn frontal once in the central GoM.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#232 Postby Alyono » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:53 pm

likely nontropical
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#233 Postby weathaguyry » Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:04 pm

Alyono wrote:likely nontropical


Could it possibly be subtropical due to its location?
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#234 Postby NDG » Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:11 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:CMC may not be that crazy, Euro shows a strong TS making landfall over Eastern Florida (but it's still 200+hrs out).

Looks to turn frontal once in the central GoM.


I would take anything the Euro shows beyond its 7 day range forecast with a grain of salt, by no means it is that good in that range.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#235 Postby Alyono » Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:13 pm

weathaguyry wrote:
Alyono wrote:likely nontropical


Could it possibly be subtropical due to its location?


fully nontropical. Looks frontal
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#236 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:41 pm

From TS Beatriz discussion at 4 PM CDT advisory.

The latest ECMWF and Canadian model
runs suggest the possibility the remnants of the cyclone could
regenerate over the southwestern Gulf of Mexico. However, strong
vertical wind shear forecast over the Gulf by all of the large-scale
models makes this an uncertain scenario at best.


In other words,it could regenerate in GOM if shear unexpectly relaxes.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#237 Postby LarryWx » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:10 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:CMC 12z develops what appears to be energy from TWO-E and traverses the GOM intensifying into a moderate TS within 7 days.


It seems to be ignoring the shear. 8-)


In reality, the CMC really does seem to downplay strong shear constantly. That imo is the main reason it develops so many fake TC's/makes them way too strong. Why this isn't fixed is a mystery. Maybe the model enjoys being called the "Crazy Uncle" and wants to retain that nickname?? ;)
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#238 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:24 pm

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#239 Postby weathaguyry » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:10 pm

I just wanted to mention this for fun, gotta love the long range GFS (Bottom Right of the Map)

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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#240 Postby Hammy » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:45 am

If the GFS is showing phantom storms this early, could that be an indicator that the base conditions are more favorable than recent years?
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