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#221 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:37 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:All major models are creating some sort of vorticy crossing south FL this Hr.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/


Note that you're looking at model data now over 24 hours old. This system has virtually no chance of developing into a TD/TS. Just some passing thunderstorms for extreme south Florida, Cuba, and the Bahamas over the weekend.
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#222 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:44 pm

wxman57 wrote:
DESTRUCTION5 wrote:All major models are creating some sort of vorticy crossing south FL this Hr.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/


Note that you're looking at model data now over 24 hours old. This system has virtually no chance of developing into a TD/TS. Just some passing thunderstorms for extreme south Florida, Cuba, and the Bahamas over the weekend.


wxman57 I never like to use the words "no chance" in reference to the tropics.
I personally have seen way too many strange things happen to say that so I
commend for going on the limb. :D
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#223 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:44 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
DESTRUCTION5 wrote:All major models are creating some sort of vorticy crossing south FL this Hr.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/


Note that you're looking at model data now over 24 hours old. This system has virtually no chance of developing into a TD/TS. Just some passing thunderstorms for extreme south Florida, Cuba, and the Bahamas over the weekend.


wxman57 I never like to use the words "no chance" in reference to the tropics.
I personally have seen way too many strange things happen to say that so I
commend for going on the limb. :D


I did qualify it with the word "virtually". ;-)
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#224 Postby wzrgirl1 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:52 pm

think you are right that it won't be a named system.....just a little squally over here
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#225 Postby Chacor » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:17 pm

TWO:

291
ABNT20 KNHC 160216
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1030 PM EDT FRI JUN 15 2007

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS EXTENDING FROM THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA
ACROSS CUBA...SOUTHERN FLORIDA...AND THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS ARE
ASSOCIATED WITH A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE. THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF
ORGANIZATION AT THIS TIME...AND ANY DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE SLOW TO
OCCUR. EVEN IF NO DEVELOPMENT OCCURS...LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS ARE
POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF CUBA...SOUTHERN FLORIDA...AND THE
BAHAMAS DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO AS THE SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY
NORTHWARD.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BEVEN
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#226 Postby jasons2k » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:19 pm

I'm not holding my breath for this one. Still think early July, at least, for Chantal. But then, as Harold Taft would say, "the bottom drops out" IMO.
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#227 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:22 pm

this one has a chance...if it can only organize...then it
would intensify as there will be a short period
of favorable shear...
but i'll keep watching it closely
throughout the night in hopes
that it brings south florida
heavy rain where it is needed
the most...
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#228 Postby boca » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:51 pm

Tell me if you can see any hint of a circulation on the far western edge of this cloud mass.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-ir2.html
It looks like low clouds are turning counterclockwise between the Yucatan and Cuba.
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#229 Postby Javlin » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:58 pm

Almost Boca don't know if I could make that call quite yet.The other problem is the lack TS with it.
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#230 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:00 pm

I see a hint of circulation on that Sat.
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#231 Postby boca » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:06 pm

I can see the low cloud streamers pulling off to the west on the sat pic posted above.
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#232 Postby miamicanes177 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:06 pm

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Shear is 5-10kts which is shockingly favorable given this is June. It is over the warmest SST's in the Atlantic and the highest TCHP. I give this a 60% chance to become TS Chantal.
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#233 Postby Nimbus » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:07 pm

Surface pressure at the Yucatan Channel buoy 1004 MB falling rapidly.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42056

Looks like a little LLC starting just east of Cozumel.
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#234 Postby boca » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:10 pm

That's about were that turning is taking place.
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#235 Postby Kennethb » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:15 pm

Hey, its the middle of June. Chances of development is very slim. Enjoy the quiet while we can.
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#236 Postby caneman » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:19 pm

Nimbus wrote:Surface pressure at the Yucatan Channel buoy 1004 MB falling rapidly.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42056

Looks like a little LLC starting just east of Cozumel.


That is pretty low. Need some concentrated T-storms though
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#237 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:24 pm

caneman wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Surface pressure at the Yucatan Channel buoy 1004 MB falling rapidly.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42056

Looks like a little LLC starting just east of Cozumel.


That is pretty low. Need some concentrated T-storms though



I must say that is pretty low.
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#238 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:34 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
caneman wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Surface pressure at the Yucatan Channel buoy 1004 MB falling rapidly.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42056

Looks like a little LLC starting just east of Cozumel.


That is pretty low. Need some concentrated T-storms though



I must say that is pretty low.


That seems to be a little strange that is so low when surrounding areas are much higher, there would had been much stronger winds around that buoy. Lets see if any convection forms around that area in the next few hours.
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#239 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:40 pm

NDG wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:
caneman wrote:
Nimbus wrote:Surface pressure at the Yucatan Channel buoy 1004 MB falling rapidly.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42056

Looks like a little LLC starting just east of Cozumel.


That is pretty low. Need some concentrated T-storms though



I must say that is pretty low.


That seems to be a little strange that is so low when surrounding areas are much higher, there would had been much stronger winds around that buoy. Lets see if any convection forms around that area in the next few hours.

i agree.. its a little odd. let me look at some things i will get back to everyone in a hour..
by the way.. if that is the case and it has fallen that much .. there be something trying to get going.
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#240 Postby Javlin » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:47 pm

While everyone continues with the pull to the NE that only occurs if the system starts to develop otherwise it sits.Then that brings in other factors down the road should a LLC develop later the timing of the ULL's,shear and some what if's.The models are based on a closed low aren't they?that is more or less associated with the TS activity to the E?just questions.
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