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#301 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:01 pm



Tropical Storm Arlene= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL012005_Arlene.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/AR ... hics.shtml






Tropical Storm Bret= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/BR ... hics.shtml






Tropical Storm Cindy= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/CI ... hics.shtml






Hurricane Dennis= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL042005_Dennis.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/DE ... hics.shtml






Hurricane Emily= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/EM ... hics.shtml






Tropical Storm Franklin= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/FR ... hics.shtml






Tropical Storm Gert= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL072005_Gert.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/GE ... hics.shtml






Tropical Storm Harvey= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/HA ... hics.shtml






Hurricane Irene= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/IR ... hics.shtml






Tropical Depression Ten= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/TEN_graphics.shtml






Tropical Storm Jose= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL112005_Jose.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/JO ... hics.shtml







Hurricane Katrina= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL122005_Katrina.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/KA ... hics.shtml





Tropical Storm Lee = http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL132005_Lee.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/LEE_graphics.shtml






Hurricane Maria= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/MA ... hics.shtml







Hurricane Nate= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/NA ... hics.shtml






Hurricane Ophelia= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/OP ... hics.shtml






Hurricane Philippe= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/PH ... hics.shtml






Hurricane Rita= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/RI ... hics.shtml







Tropical Depression Nineteen= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL192005_Nineteen.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/NI ... hics.shtml






Hurricane Stan= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/ST ... hics.shtml







Tropical Storm Tammy= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/TA ... hics.shtml







Tropical Depression Twenty-Two= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/TW ... hics.shtml







Hurricane Vince= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/VI ... hics.shtml







Hurricane Wilma= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL242005_Wilma.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/WI ... hics.shtml









Tropical Storm Alpha= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL252005_Alpha.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/AL ... hics.shtml







Hurricane Beta= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/BE ... hics.shtml








Tropical Storm Gamma= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/GA ... hics.shtml







Tropical Storm Delta= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/DE ... hics.shtml







Hurricane Epsilon= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL292005_Epsilon.pdf

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/EP ... hics.shtml







Tropical Storm Zeta= http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/ZE ... hics.shtml






New page the list is posted now with the much anticipated Hurricane Wilma report which it 25 pages long.Read it and if you have comments about the report you can replie at this thread.
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#302 Postby weatherlover427 » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:06 pm

Mark Sudduth is in the report :) :D

Everglades City Mark Suddath HLP Tower 24/0955 953.9 117
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#303 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:23 pm

weatherlover427 wrote:Mark Sudduth is in the report :) :D

Everglades City Mark Suddath HLP Tower 24/0955 953.9 117


Yes very interesting the mention of our friend Mark Sudduth and his data at report and I included it at title header of thread.
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#304 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:11 pm

I saw Mark get mentioned a couple of times last year to...i also sent in some data for Ophelia, hoping i get mentioned...:lol: I doubt it though...lol oh, GO MARK!!! and they spelled his name wrong...?!?! :lol:
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#305 Postby southerngale » Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:46 pm

I remember someone saying they thought Wilma would be upgraded from 125mph (cat. 3) to a cat. 4

Did they downgrade it to 120mph or was it always 120mph? I just skimmed over it and haven't had time to read the whole thing yet.
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#306 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:22 pm

The recon at landfall supported a upgraded to around 115 knots.
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#307 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:36 pm

they used a different reduction factor, matt. One can debate if that is the proper factor... but their reasoning was explained in the report
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#308 Postby southerngale » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:38 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:The recon at landfall supported a upgraded to around 115 knots.


Oh, I guess I missed that. Like I said, I haven't read the whole thing yet. I was going by this in the report: Maximum sustained winds were estimated to be near 105 kt (category 3 intensity) when landfall of the center occurred in southwestern Florida near Cape Romano around 1030 UTC 24 October.
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#309 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:37 pm

I have not read it because it turns into a big X. In I'm waiting for the thing to come out on Html.

But the info I got that night is all I'm going by.
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#310 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:43 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I have not read it because it turns into a big X. In I'm waiting for the thing to come out on Html.

But the info I got that night is all I'm going by.


Back-click and click on "Save Target As..." and save it into your computer. Or go to the NHC site and open the Word version. You might also need to install Adobe Acrobat on your computer.
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#311 Postby Jim Cantore » Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:00 pm

120 has been very popular recently

Ivan, Jeanne, Dennis, Katrina, Rita, now Wilma
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#312 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:17 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I have not read it because it turns into a big X. In I'm waiting for the thing to come out on Html.

But the info I got that night is all I'm going by.


If you are waiting for the report in HTML it will be the last thing out as the pdf and MSWord versions are the ones they are releasing now.But as wxmann91 said install Adobe Acrobat and you will have the pdf version.
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#313 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:32 pm

Note that Wilma was the same intensity as Katrina at landfall, yet Katrina produced a 30 ft surge and Wilma less than 10 ft. Lots of factors go into the production of a storm surge, not just the peak intensity. But Wilma also had a very large area of hurricane-force winds at landfall, just like Katrina. Had Wilma hit the MS coast, it could have produced a surge nearly as high as Katrina's. That's why there is no such thing as a "Cat 3 surge" or "Cat 5 surge".
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#314 Postby Rainband » Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:38 pm

wxman57 wrote:Note that Wilma was the same intensity as Katrina at landfall, yet Katrina produced a 30 ft surge and Wilma less than 10 ft. Lots of factors go into the production of a storm surge, not just the peak intensity. But Wilma also had a very large area of hurricane-force winds at landfall, just like Katrina. Had Wilma hit the MS coast, it could have produced a surge nearly as high as Katrina's. That's why there is no such thing as a "Cat 3 surge" or "Cat 5 surge".
Yep. It has to do with the topography.
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#315 Postby Jim Cantore » Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:39 pm

looking at the wind gust reports I am starting to question this 120 downgrade alot of gusts (though unofficial) are over 120 and several near 135
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#316 Postby StormScanWx » Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:08 pm

So what was the landfall wind speed at FL?
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#317 Postby Jim Cantore » Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:10 pm

120mph
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#318 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:49 pm

Rainband wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Note that Wilma was the same intensity as Katrina at landfall, yet Katrina produced a 30 ft surge and Wilma less than 10 ft. Lots of factors go into the production of a storm surge, not just the peak intensity. But Wilma also had a very large area of hurricane-force winds at landfall, just like Katrina. Had Wilma hit the MS coast, it could have produced a surge nearly as high as Katrina's. That's why there is no such thing as a "Cat 3 surge" or "Cat 5 surge".
Yep. It has to do with the topography.


It's a little more than topography. True, where Katrina hit, the surge multiplier was 1.9 vs. closer to 1.0 in south Florida. But, although Wilma was nearly the same size as Katrina, it was moving at 20-25 kts. That means that its waves were duration-limited in that the wind field wasn't over the same body of water for as long as slower-moving Katrina's was. Also, Wilma's wind waves were fetch-limited. Wilma's southeast quadrant winds were blowing off of Cuba. So Wilma couldn't build the very large waves prior to reaching south Florida. There was also no significant set-up tide in south Florida ahead of Wilma, as winds were not blowing toward the coast prior to Wilma's landfall. Many factors go into storm surge generation. Peak wind speed (i.e., SS rating) is only a small part of the equation.
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#319 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:04 pm

It could also do with the fact that Katrnia was a cat5 not less then 8 hours before landfall. In Wilma was not a cat5 in the gulf at all.
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#320 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:06 pm

the 10 foot was about 60 miles from the eye in Marathon.

reports from mainland monroe (the glades) were that the surge came 10-20 miles inland. Had it hit naples with the RFQ, populated areas would have received the devastating surge of 15-20 feet. Same thing if this would have tracked 40 miles to the south, Florida Bay would have submerged the Keys
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