2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#321 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:05 pm

Wow look at that east coast trough on the 12Z Euro...That is almost winter-like. Taste of fall for the NE CONUS:

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#322 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:50 pm

The 12zGFS is showing the lid about to pop off at the end of the run so maybe between the 20th and 25th the lid pops off
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#323 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:12 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:The 12zGFS is showing the lid about to pop off at the end of the run so maybe between the 20th and 25th the lid pops off

which is right on schedule.
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#324 Postby SFLcane » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:15 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:The 12zGFS is showing the lid about to pop off at the end of the run so maybe between the 20th and 25th the lid pops off


What’s coming off? Nothing to look at there but probably more dry air at this point.
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#325 Postby CyclonicFury » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:42 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:The 12zGFS is showing the lid about to pop off at the end of the run so maybe between the 20th and 25th the lid pops off

I don't see any indications of the GFS showing the lid coming off yet.
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#326 Postby Hammy » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:52 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:The 12zGFS is showing the lid about to pop off at the end of the run so maybe between the 20th and 25th the lid pops off

I don't see any indications of the GFS showing the lid coming off yet.


There does seem to be a moistening trend.

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#327 Postby DioBrando » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:43 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:The 12zGFS is showing the lid about to pop off at the end of the run so maybe between the 20th and 25th the lid pops off

heh

where are u getting this info from
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#328 Postby MetroMike » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:23 pm

The models have been terrible this season. Why should we believe what experts are saying about a dry MDR this month?
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#329 Postby Hammy » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:35 pm

MetroMike wrote:The models have been terrible this season. Why should we believe what experts are saying about a dry MDR this month?


The models if anything have been too bullish in general with the moisture content.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#330 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:25 pm

Let’s not forget models are not really good at predicting genesis especially once you get out beyond 5 days and especially beyond a week and definitely beyond 10 days. Sometimes they can predict something in the long-range but I wouldn’t bet on it because I think the latest upgrades particularly to the GFS have made it more conservative on predicting genesis particularly in the long-range. It would not surprise me if the next system that we see does not show up in the long-range but does in the medium-range.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#331 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:30 pm

We've got two threads full of the season cancel crap. Let's stop it in here and keep this thread for model runs and observations on those runs only please. Use the 2019 indicators thread if you feel the need to go on record cancelling the season.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#332 Postby Hammy » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:32 pm

As indicated by the earlier GFS run (though this may be gone next run) there does appear to be change on the way, albeit I don't trust the speed at which the models show things (often it's later than that) but it does appear that the waves should start coming off further south over the next few weeks, with a nice moisture-soaked one poised to come off in about two weeks. It's extremely long range, but about on time.

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#333 Postby crownweather » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:17 pm

FWIW, 18z GFS actually shows a couple of areas of potential development in about two weeks from now. Image

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#334 Postby crownweather » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:32 am

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#335 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:26 pm

crownweather wrote:FWIW, 18z GFS actually shows a couple of areas of potential development in about two weeks from now. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190805/5c742ccdd591c72187eeb760365afb21.jpg

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Yup but im not buying anything the GFS is selling ...least of all something 2 weeks out.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#336 Postby Emmett_Brown » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:59 pm

Early August often features quiet conditions; a continuation of the quiet conditions of July. Living in the deep South, summer seems eternal, and a relaxed sleepy rhythm takes over... peaceful mornings slowly give way to towering cumulus. You can almost set your watch by the first thunder of each afternoon. Time seems to slow down. This lull is a time to reflect; to think back about the monsters of late summer and autumn of years past. The futile efforts of long range forecasters are merely static in the background of a natural rhythm as old as the oceans themselves. While we fret about those things we cannot control, nature calmly ticks on, un-phased by our efforts to know.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#337 Postby Fishing » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:14 pm

Emmett_Brown wrote:Early August often features quiet conditions; a continuation of the quiet conditions of July. Living in the deep South, summer seems eternal, and a relaxed sleepy rhythm takes over... peaceful mornings slowly give way to towering cumulus. You can almost set your watch by the first thunder of each afternoon. Time seems to slow down. This lull is a time to reflect; to think back about the monsters of late summer and autumn of years past. The futile efforts of long range forecasters are merely static in the background of a natural rhythm as old as the oceans themselves. While we fret about those things we cannot control, nature calmly ticks on, un-phased by our efforts to know.

Spot on
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#338 Postby N2FSU » Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:23 am

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#339 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:52 pm



This is why the long range plots are not the best to follow like a laser. 12z run has nada.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#340 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:28 pm

cycloneye wrote:


This is why the long range plots are not the best to follow like a laser. 12z run has nada.


For all we know 18z may end up with 3 systems or nada that’s what’s fun about model watching
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