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#381 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:47 pm

xcool22 wrote:gfs show no developing

LOL, the last GFS holdout.
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#382 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:56 pm

OuterBanker wrote:
xcool22 wrote:gfs show no developing

LOL, the last GFS holdout.



For all we know the GFS could be right correct? I am just wondering why it is taking that Low Pressure off the southeast and making it dance around in every direction.
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Re: 2015 Global model runs discussion

#383 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:44 pm

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#384 Postby xcool22 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:51 pm

just imo okay
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#385 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:51 pm

NCSTORMMAN wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:
xcool22 wrote:gfs show no developing

LOL, the last GFS holdout.



For all we know the GFS could be right correct? I am just wondering why it is taking that Low Pressure off the southeast and making it dance around in every direction.

Actually, the gfs is showing the low off ec of fla but doesn't do anything with it taking it into se nc and dying. My complaint is that it has been abysmal in in close development. As our populations grow mitigation and logistics become ever more important. The GFS is supposed to be the American flagship, yet the European constantly outperforms it in tropical forecasting.
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#386 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:59 pm

Agreed maybe I was looking at multiple lows that form one after the other. I agree on the models thing but I am no meteorologist.
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#387 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:05 pm

NCSTORMMAN wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:
xcool22 wrote:gfs show no developing

LOL, the last GFS holdout.



For all we know the GFS could be right correct? I am just wondering why it is taking that Low Pressure off the southeast and making it dance around in every direction.

Actually, the gfs is showing the low off ec of fla but doesn't do anything with it taking it into se nc and dying. My complaint is that it has been abysmal in in close development. As our populations grow mitigation and logistics become ever more important. The GFS is supposed to be the American flagship, yet the European constantly outperforms it in tropical forecasting.
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Re: 2015 Global model runs discussion

#388 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:06 pm

just inImageZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT FRI JUL 24 2015

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. A non-tropical area of low pressure could form early next week
between the southeast United States coast and Bermuda. This low
could gradually acquire subtropical or tropical characteristics
while it moves east-northeastward or northeastward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent

Forecaster Kimberlain/Cangialosi
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#389 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:07 pm

look going out to sea what nhc thinking
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Re: 2015 Global model runs discussion

#390 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:10 pm

GFS is indicating a low forming, it just doesn't do much with it. Similar to its handling of Claudette. Euro was better. Very good chance of Danny by Wednesday.
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#391 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:11 pm

wxman57 wrote:GFS is indicating a low forming, it just doesn't do much with it. Similar to its handling of Claudette. Euro was better. Very good chance of Danny by Wednesday.


Do you think the Euro is correct? Or do you think it goes well out to see like the NHC is predicting?
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#392 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:38 pm

NCSTORMMAN wrote:
wxman57 wrote:GFS is indicating a low forming, it just doesn't do much with it. Similar to its handling of Claudette. Euro was better. Very good chance of Danny by Wednesday.


Do you think the Euro is correct? Or do you think it goes well out to see like the NHC is predicting?

Yeah it looks like the NHC is following another model rather than the Euro in terms of potential track, or is that shaded region just the area where the TC may form?
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#393 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:38 pm

1 If tpc based it on the GFS I wouldn't trust it. The gfs takes everything OTS on in close proximity. Even Sandy was OTS and weak in their initial forecast.

2. The only forecaster from TPC I trust is Stewart. :D
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Re: 2015 Global model runs discussion

#394 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:47 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
NCSTORMMAN wrote:
wxman57 wrote:GFS is indicating a low forming, it just doesn't do much with it. Similar to its handling of Claudette. Euro was better. Very good chance of Danny by Wednesday.


Do you think the Euro is correct? Or do you think it goes well out to see like the NHC is predicting?

Yeah it looks like the NHC is following another model rather than the Euro in terms of potential track, or is that shaded region just the area where the TC may form?


The latter.
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#395 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:32 am

So, am I getting this straight. The ECMWF is following the GFS? If so I think a slow clap should start for the GFS. You know like they do in the movies.
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Re: 2015 Global model runs discussion

#396 Postby OuterBanker » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:35 am

Wow, big shift west in European. Riding entire east coast,but inland. It must see a strong trough or ridge.
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Re: 2015 Global model runs discussion

#397 Postby tolakram » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:44 am

The run looks very strange, waiting for the 12Z. :)

I'm still not sure what area the NHC is tagging, it appears to be different from this one.
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#398 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:47 am

The GFS model is showing a couple of closed lows that trek across the Atlantic in the next couple of weeks. These lows don't develop but they are not getting wiped out by strong shear like we have seen so far this season.

In the image below you can see the one low approaching the NE Leewards and the other low organizing off of Africa which takes the same path as this low. We are getting closer to that time of year we need to start looking out over the Atlantic at the Cape Verde waves that roll of Africa.

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#399 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:05 am

Some Convection blowing up with the Tropical Wave now entering the Eastern Carib. Sea this morning.
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#400 Postby HurricaneFan » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:40 am

gatorcane wrote:The GFS model is showing a couple of closed lows that trek across the Atlantic in the next couple of weeks. These lows don't develop but they are not getting wiped out by strong shear like we have seen so far this season.

In the image below you can see the one low approaching the NE Leewards and the other low organizing off of Africa which takes the same path as this low. We are getting closer to that time of year we need to start looking out over the Atlantic at the Cape Verde waves that roll of Africa.

Image


Is the Tropical Wave on the GFS approaching the Islands the same Wave just south of the Cape Verde Islands now?
There seems to be a Wave to the east of it.Do the models predict that Wave will die off?
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