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#41 Postby WindRunner » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:03 pm

I look at two of them: the second 3-digit number (max 30-sec sustained wind) and the last 3-digit set of numbers (max 10? sec wind speed)
You can see the time in zulu on the front along with the cordinates. That's about all I use, I'm not sure about where the pressure is, though.


I'd like to know where the mini-obs are coming from, I can't seem to find them on any of the recon sites.
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#42 Postby weatherwoman » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:03 pm

please tell me that they have not actually sent a plane into that mess, there is nothing there it is sheered all to pieces
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#43 Postby djones65 » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:05 pm

Wow! They are finding lots of southwesterly winds!
That surprises me...
They have been traveling almost due south along longitude 62W and found easterly winds then northeasterly winds then northerly winds then west, southwest and then south southwesterly.... The winds are only 8 to 14 knots though... <smile> but still indicative of a low pressure area....

Perhaps farther east they will find stronger winds....
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#44 Postby clfenwi » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:06 pm

mascpa wrote:Great lines of numbers. But what do they mean? What are they telling us???


1746 1839N 06203W 00415 0028 145 011 236 228 011 00461 0000000000

Time / Position / Altimter / Pressure altitude / D-value / wind direction in degrees / wind speed in knots (30 sec avg) / temp / dewpoint / wind speed (10 second average) / radar altitude / If there are any '1's in the last column, then the particular value is considered 'suspect'.

Official guide here (PDF file):
http//www.ofcm.gov/nhop/98/pdf/r-appg.pdf
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#45 Postby wxwatcher91 » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:06 pm

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URNT11 KNHC 181803
97779 17594 50184 61200 03000 17012 24232 /0015
41510
RMK AF304 0110A INVEST OB 19
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#46 Postby clfenwi » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:09 pm

Observation Number: 18
Time: 1747Z
Position: 18.6 North // 62.0 West
Flight level: 310 meters
Flight level winds: 11 knots // 150
Temp / Dewpoint (C) : 24/23
Weather: Rain
SLP: 1015 millibars
Surface winds: 10 knots // 140

URNT11 KNHC 181802
97779 17474 50186 62018 03100 15011 24238 /0015
41410
RMK AF304 0110A INVEST OB 18
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#47 Postby clfenwi » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:10 pm

Observation Number: 19
Time: 1759Z
Position: 18.4 North // 61.2 West
Flight level: 300 meters
Flight level winds: 12 knots // 170
Temp / Dewpoint (C) : 24/23
Weather: Broken clouds
SLP: 1015 millibars
Surface winds: 10 knots // 150

URNT11 KNHC 181803
97779 17594 50184 61200 03000 17012 24232 /0015
41510
RMK AF304 0110A INVEST OB 19
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#48 Postby rockyman » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:13 pm

weatherwoman wrote:please tell me that they have not actually sent a plane into that mess, there is nothing there it is sheered all to pieces


I wholeheartedly disagree...the system is within "striking distance" of land, it has shown persistent convection throughout the day, it shows cyclonic turning at some level of the atmosphere, it has good curvature and model support for continued growth...If the only time they sent in a plane was when a system was already classifiable, we'd have a lot of unprepared people getting hit with storms that "suddenly" pop up and strike with little warning. Regardless of their findings today, I applaud the NHC for sending a plane out.
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#49 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:14 pm

rockyman wrote:
weatherwoman wrote:please tell me that they have not actually sent a plane into that mess, there is nothing there it is sheered all to pieces


I wholeheartedly disagree...the system is within "striking distance" of land, it has shown persistent convection throughout the day, it shows cyclonic turning at some level of the atmosphere, it has good curvature and model support for continued growth...If the only time they sent in a plane was when a system was already classifiable, we'd have a lot of unprepared people getting hit with storms that "suddenly" pop up and strike with little warning. Regardless of their findings today, I applaud the NHC for sending a plane out.


agree
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#50 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:15 pm

this system has been a TD for the past couple of days; however, it seems quite clear that it has now dissipated and is a weak tropical wave. Atmospheric conditions do not favor further development
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#51 Postby clfenwi » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:18 pm

000

SXXX50 KNHC 181807
AF304 0110A INVEST HDOB 32 KNHC
1756 1826N 06127W 00307 0034 176 012 246 232 012 00351 0000000000
1756. 1826N 06125W 00305 0034 172 012 246 236 012 00350 0000000000
1757 1825N 06123W 00304 0034 170 012 246 236 012 00349 0000000000
1757. 1824N 06121W 00305 0034 168 012 246 234 012 00350 0000000000
1758 1824N 06119W 00305 0034 170 011 246 234 012 00350 0000000000
1758. 1823N 06117W 00305 0034 172 012 246 230 012 00349 0000000000
1759 1822N 06115W 00305 0034 173 012 246 228 013 00349 0000000000
1759. 1822N 06114W 00305 0034 170 012 246 230 012 00349 0000000000
1800 1821N 06112W 00305 0034 170 011 246 230 012 00349 0000000000
1800. 1820N 06110W 00304 0034 172 011 246 236 011 00349 0000000000
1801 1819N 06108W 00305 0034 170 011 246 234 011 00349 0000000000
1801. 1819N 06106W 00304 0033 169 012 246 234 013 00348 0000000000
1802 1818N 06104W 00305 0033 171 012 246 232 012 00348 0000000000
1802. 1817N 06102W 00304 0032 166 012 246 234 012 00347 0000000000
1803 1818N 06101W 00306 0033 162 015 246 232 015 00349 0000000000
1803. 1819N 06059W 00305 0033 160 015 246 238 015 00349 0000000000
1804 1820N 06057W 00304 0033 159 016 246 236 016 00348 0000000000
1804. 1822N 06056W 00305 0034 158 015 246 236 016 00349 0000000000
1805 1823N 06054W 00305 0034 155 016 246 238 016 00350 0000000000
1805. 1825N 06053W 00305 0034 154 016 246 234 016 00350 0000000000

Anytime you are trying to figure out where to get something from the NWS, google the message header...
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#52 Postby Anonymous » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:18 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:this system has been a TD for the past couple of days; however, it seems quite clear that it has now dissipated and is a weak tropical wave. Atmospheric conditions do not favor further development


Yea...just like Emily...and Harvey...and Irene
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#53 Postby Thunder44 » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:20 pm

ivanhater wrote:
rockyman wrote:
weatherwoman wrote:please tell me that they have not actually sent a plane into that mess, there is nothing there it is sheered all to pieces


I wholeheartedly disagree...the system is within "striking distance" of land, it has shown persistent convection throughout the day, it shows cyclonic turning at some level of the atmosphere, it has good curvature and model support for continued growth...If the only time they sent in a plane was when a system was already classifiable, we'd have a lot of unprepared people getting hit with storms that "suddenly" pop up and strike with little warning. Regardless of their findings today, I applaud the NHC for sending a plane out.


agree


They sent the plane out when it look better early this morning. Not it has detoriated since than. They made the right choice at time to send it out. It's hard to tell if it would keep up organization all day.
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#54 Postby WindRunner » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:21 pm

Thanks, clfenwi.
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#55 Postby clfenwi » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:28 pm

SXXX50 KNHC 181816
AF304 0110A INVEST HDOB 33 KNHC
1806 1826N 06051W 00305 0035 151 016 246 234 016 00351 0000000000
1806. 1827N 06050W 00304 0035 151 016 246 236 016 00350 0000000000
1807 1829N 06048W 00305 0035 153 017 246 234 017 00351 0000000000
1807. 1830N 06047W 00305 0035 156 017 246 232 017 00351 0000000000
1808 1832N 06046W 00305 0036 153 017 246 236 017 00351 0000000000
1808. 1833N 06044W 00305 0036 153 018 246 232 018 00351 0000000000
1809 1834N 06043W 00304 0036 154 017 246 234 018 00351 0000000000
1809. 1836N 06041W 00306 0036 159 018 246 240 018 00352 0000000000
1810 1837N 06039W 00305 0036 151 018 246 238 019 00351 0000000000
1810. 1839N 06038W 00305 0036 149 018 246 236 018 00352 0000000000
1811 1840N 06037W 00305 0037 147 017 246 238 018 00352 0000000000
1811. 1841N 06035W 00305 0037 144 017 246 238 017 00352 0000000000
1812 1843N 06034W 00305 0037 143 017 246 238 017 00353 0000000000
1812. 1844N 06032W 00305 0037 143 018 246 236 018 00353 0000000000
1813 1846N 06031W 00305 0037 142 018 246 234 018 00353 0000000000
1813. 1847N 06029W 00305 0037 144 018 246 238 018 00353 0000000000
1814 1848N 06028W 00305 0038 137 018 242 242 018 00353 0000000000
1814. 1850N 06026W 00304 0037 137 019 240 238 019 00352 0000000000
1815 1851N 06025W 00306 0037 139 020 242 232 021 00354 0000000000
1815. 1853N 06024W 00304 0038 134 022 246 220 022 00353 0000000000
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#56 Postby bvigal » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:29 pm

clfenwi wrote:000

SXXX50 KNHC 181807...

Anytime you are trying to figure out where to get something from the NWS, google the message header...


clfenwi, I did that, which gave me link http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/NHC/
data there is from July...?
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#57 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:34 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:this system has been a TD for the past couple of days; however, it seems quite clear that it has now dissipated and is a weak tropical wave. Atmospheric conditions do not favor further development


Yep, I haven't been able to locate that LLC today. And those westerly winds were up above 20,000 ft, not at the surface. So far, the plane appears to have found SE-SSE winds at 12-22 kts in the lower levels.
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#58 Postby clfenwi » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:35 pm

bvigal wrote:
clfenwi wrote:000

SXXX50 KNHC 181807...

Anytime you are trying to figure out where to get something from the NWS, google the message header...


clfenwi, I did that, which gave me link http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/NHC/
data there is from July...?


ermm ...send them a nastygram! :D

I think this was the top hit... it has current data:

http://twister.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/ ... XXX50.KNHC
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#59 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:39 pm

They must be bored... they sent a plane out. :roll:
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#60 Postby clfenwi » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:40 pm

Observation Number: 20
Time: 1817Z
Position: 19.0 North // 60.3 West
Flight level: 300 meters
Flight level winds: 22 knots // 140
Temp / Dewpoint (C) : 24/23
Weather: Broken clouds
SLP: 1016 millibars
Surface winds: 20 knots // 100

Observation Number: 21
Time: 1830Z
Position: 19.5 North // 59.7 West
Flight level: 300 meters
Flight level winds: 22 knots // 140
Temp / Dewpoint (C) : 24/23
Weather: Broken clouds
SLP: 1016 millibars
Surface winds: 20 knots // 140

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