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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#441 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:56 pm

My goodness!, no change from a month ago in terms of the very warm anomalies in the MDR and North Atlantic.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#442 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:23 am

Blown Away wrote:
ROCK wrote:yeah Luis...those anomalies do look ominous of they hold into spring....with what I suspect nuetral ENSO this could mean another big year....


If the pattern remains we may have another active season with a weak Bermuda High and majority of the systems staying offshore??


Current long-range Euro is predicting higher pressures across the Caribbean April-June. That would signal a stronger Bermuda High in 2011 than it was in 2010. This increases the landfall threat farther west (Caribbean/U.S.). The chart below is from Dec. 15th. January's forecast will be out around this weekend.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#443 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:40 pm

What is concerning to me Wxman on the map you posted is the lower pressure developing over the central U.S. I am probably getting ahead of myself this early but that could signal an opening in the Gulf, instead of plowing west into Mexico. Extremely early at this stage, but I would imagine that would spell trouble for the SE Coast and U.S Gulf coast.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#444 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:00 pm

The MDR area continues very warm thanks to the continuation of the negative NAO.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#445 Postby cycloneye » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:47 pm

It continues to be well above normal on the anomalies front in the MDR.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#446 Postby cycloneye » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:37 pm

It continues to be warm in the Tropical Atlantic,but not as warm it was in early January.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#447 Postby cycloneye » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:50 pm

As of March 17,the sst's in the North Atlantic basin in general are cooler than in 2010. But there is a warm finger in the GOM this year,that 2010 didn't have on this date.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#448 Postby Macrocane » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:40 pm

The Loop current is warmer now than March 2010, it won't be good if it stays warmer than normal by the time of the hurricane season unless wind shear is high enough to prevent development.
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#449 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:12 pm

SST's look mediocre this year so far.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#450 Postby StormClouds63 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:17 pm

As another poster commented, one of the keys to the 2011 season will be the position and strength of the Bermuda High. Water temps are important, but steering patterns and upper level conditions will largely determine whether it's a high or low impact year for U.S. landfalls. All of us along the GOM were very fortunate that a busy season turned uot to be a quiet one as well. Memories of Rita and Ike are still fresh in the public's mind, so no apathy here.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#451 Postby jinftl » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:48 pm

Although SSTs are not as high overall basin-wide as this time last year, in general, most areas of the basin south of 20N are running near normal to above normal in SST. The Gulf and area off the S.E. coast of the U.S. will warm quickly once cold fronts grind to a halt and no longer drive cold air down from the north.

Lower SST than last year in the eastern atlantic may not be a good thing - if systems don't develop as quickly off of the coast of africa - and slighly cooler sst can be a contributing factor to less development right off the bat, systems may make it further west before they develop instead of rapidly-developed systems turning into fish storms.....just a thought....look at where storms formed in 2005....they made it pretty far west before forming (Katrina and Rita didn't become depressions until they were in the bahamas).


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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#452 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:07 am

Gulf really heating up. Loop current has checked in for Hurricane season.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#453 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:08 pm

jinftl wrote:Although SSTs are not as high overall basin-wide as this time last year, in general, most areas of the basin south of 20N are running near normal to above normal in SST. The Gulf and area off the S.E. coast of the U.S. will warm quickly once cold fronts grind to a halt and no longer drive cold air down from the north.

Lower SST than last year in the eastern atlantic may not be a good thing - if systems don't develop as quickly off of the coast of africa - and slighly cooler sst can be a contributing factor to less development right off the bat, systems may make it further west before they develop instead of rapidly-developed systems turning into fish storms.....just a thought....look at where storms formed in 2005....they made it pretty far west before forming (Katrina and Rita didn't become depressions until they were in the bahamas).


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A rebound in the sst anomalies on this week's update in the MDR,parts of GOM and in the extreme North Atlantic.

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#454 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:33 pm

^^^
I agree....SST's rebounding in a big way. And with the EURO showing La Nina-Neutral it could still be a nasty season. But like I was saying earlier this month the models shifting towards El Nino is a prohibitive factor.
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#455 Postby Macrocane » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:12 am

Weatherfreak000 wrote:^^^
I agree....SST's rebounding in a big way. And with the EURO showing La Nina-Neutral it could still be a nasty season. But like I was saying earlier this month the models shifting towards El Nino is a prohibitive factor.


It depends on the strenght of El Niño too and it may also depend if it is Modoki or Normal, a weak El Niño could still be very bad like 1969 or 2004.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#456 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:08 am

The updated image of the Atlantic anomalies shows even a more warmer basin in general,even in the GOM.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#457 Postby wxman57 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:04 am

Remember, those are anomalies, not temperatures. Northern Gulf temps are still rather cool from Texas to Florida.
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However, SSTs across the Gulf for THIS year are a good bit warmer than for the same time last March:
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#458 Postby NDG » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:13 am

Yep, if I remember correctly last year it was a rather cool & rainy late winter & early spring across the gulf coast & most of FL thus for why waters in the northern GOM were much cooler compared to this time of the year so far.
Interesting how much farther north the Loop Current in the GOM is this year compared to at least last year.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#459 Postby wxman57 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:31 am

NDG wrote:Yep, if I remember correctly last year it was a rather cool & rainy late winter & early spring across the gulf coast & most of FL thus for why waters in the northern GOM were much cooler compared to this time of the year so far.
Interesting how much farther north the Loop Current in the GOM is this year compared to at least last year.


That could be related to stronger easterly trades across the Caribbean and Tropical Atlantic due to a stronger Bermuda High this year. That would also be responsible for the reduced SSTs in the MDR this year over last year. They're still quite warm, but not as warm as 2010.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#460 Postby drezee » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:21 am

wxman57 wrote:Remember, those are anomalies, not temperatures. Northern Gulf temps are still rather cool from Texas to Florida.
However, SSTs across the Gulf for THIS year are a good bit warmer than for the same time last March:


the contrast is even a bit more as the scale this year is 0.5 higher than last year...meaning if it were on the same scale the color contrast would be greater...interesting
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