2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#461 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:33 am

06z Gfs spins up a system in the NW Caribbean and aims a hurricane at south Texas
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#462 Postby crownweather » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:36 am

Ivanhater wrote:06z Gfs spins up a system in the NW Caribbean and aims a hurricane at south Texas


Second run in a row from the GFS showing a tropical system in the western Caribbean during early July. 00Z run showed it heading to Florida instead of Texas.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#463 Postby toad strangler » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:22 am

crownweather wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:06z Gfs spins up a system in the NW Caribbean and aims a hurricane at south Texas


Second run in a row from the GFS showing a tropical system in the western Caribbean during early July. 00Z run showed it heading to Florida instead of Texas.


The 6z GFS inititates this way back at 222 hours but the origin seems rather spurious to me. A vort spit out off the N tip of Columbia rather than a transient wave. I know that it's possible for this to happen but I'm not keen on the GFS sniffing this type of scenario out at nearly 10 days. Probably a ghost.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#464 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:19 am

toad strangler wrote:
crownweather wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:06z Gfs spins up a system in the NW Caribbean and aims a hurricane at south Texas


Second run in a row from the GFS showing a tropical system in the western Caribbean during early July. 00Z run showed it heading to Florida instead of Texas.


The 6z GFS inititates this way back at 222 hours but the origin seems rather spurious to me. A vort spit out off the N tip of Columbia rather than a transient wave. I know that it's possible for this to happen but I'm not keen on the GFS sniffing this type of scenario out at nearly 10 days. Probably a ghost.

Well the GFS did good with sniffing out Cristobal so lets see if can sniff out future Dolly.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#465 Postby toad strangler » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:21 am

TheStormExpert wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
crownweather wrote:
Second run in a row from the GFS showing a tropical system in the western Caribbean during early July. 00Z run showed it heading to Florida instead of Texas.


The 6z GFS inititates this way back at 222 hours but the origin seems rather spurious to me. A vort spit out off the N tip of Columbia rather than a transient wave. I know that it's possible for this to happen but I'm not keen on the GFS sniffing this type of scenario out at nearly 10 days. Probably a ghost.

Well the GFS did good with sniffing out Cristobal so lets see if can sniff out future Dolly.


True, but Cristobal was of much different origin than the GFS is showing here. Which basically is my point.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#466 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:39 pm

Yesterday's 18z GFS Parallel has a disturbance developing in the SW Caribbean in about 10 days. Shows it becoming a hurricane, lifts it north and makes landfall in the eastern Panhandle area.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#467 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:50 am

00Z GFS showing an EPAC vort developing about 240 hrs out.
Crossing over the IoT into the BoC at about 258 hrs.
Spins up in the west GoM.
Heads toward LA, landfall 312 hrs.

Overall weak at this point.
Watching future runs.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#468 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:04 am

GCANE wrote:00Z GFS showing an EPAC vort developing about 240 hrs out.
Crossing over the IoT into the BoC at about 258 hrs.
Spins up in the west GoM.
Heads toward LA, landfall 312 hrs.

Overall weak at this point.
Watching future runs.


Looks like this is coinciding with a AEW forecast to come off the coast of Africa in about 84 hrs.
Hits 40W in about 132 hrs.
It then moves thru the Carib and starts to strengthen when it reaches Colombia at about 198 hrs.
GFS is has been very consitent, the last few days, in amplifying it as it then moves west.
Gets in the GOM same time the LL vort makes the crossover from the EPAC into the BoC.
Looks like a good setup so far.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#469 Postby AnnularCane » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:28 am

GCANE wrote:00Z GFS showing an EPAC vort developing about 240 hrs out.
Crossing over the IoT into the BoC at about 258 hrs.
Spins up in the west GoM.
Heads toward LA, landfall 312 hrs.

Overall weak at this point.
Watching future runs.



For a minute there I thought I was reading an old post about Cristobal. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#470 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:38 am

06Z GFS strengthens the wave to a surface low off Honduras.
Also, spins up the EPAC vort to a solid TC with no crossover.
Run-to-run indicating chances looking better for a West Carib / GoM TC sometimes around July 4 weekend.


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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#471 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:59 pm

12Z GFS goes back to the crossover scenario with a subsequent warm-core spin up in the BoC.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#472 Postby CyclonicFury » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:00 pm

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#473 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:57 pm

18z GFS, in less than 10 days, is trying to spin something up in the SW Caribbean again
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#474 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:45 pm

Kingarabian wrote:18z GFS, in less than 10 days, is trying to spin something up in the SW Caribbean again


Looks like by Friday, July 3rd, it tries to spin up something just east of the Bahamas as well. The early season is showing quite a bit of activity despite the SAL. Puts me on edge for August to October. :double:
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#475 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:34 pm

we need see other models wake up show area but not thing yet
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#476 Postby SFLcane » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:37 pm

CyclonicFury wrote::double:

https://i.imgur.com/QfCvmTz.png


Let’s see if the signal picks up. That's 1 maybe 2 members with legit TCs
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#477 Postby toad strangler » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:42 pm

SFLcane wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote::double:

https://i.imgur.com/QfCvmTz.png


Let’s see if the signal picks up. That's 1 maybe 2 members with legit TCs



This is true but given the time of year..... and to play devils advocate .... what business is there for any MDR signal this early?
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#478 Postby Ubuntwo » Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:27 am

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0z Euro, in just over two days. That's another S/TS, in almost the same spot as Dolly. Looks like the vorticity comes from that thing formerly in the Gulf.
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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#479 Postby GCANE » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:34 am

GFS continues to amplify the west Carib wave.
Hits the Yucatan in 246 hrs.
Develops it the GOM.
Very consistent run-to-run strengthening.

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Re: 2020 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#480 Postby GCANE » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:45 am

Run-to-run showing dramtically improved UL conditions in the GOM as it comes off the Yucatan.

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