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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#61 Postby abajan » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:30 pm

hurricanehunter69 wrote:Definite Buzz about this one folks! Not just here; But everywhere else I've checked as well!

That's somewhat disconcerting. :eek:
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#62 Postby blp » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:44 pm

Majority of Ensembles don't support NIcaragua landfall. The ones that do assume a weak storm. So the land interaction will play big part obviously.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#63 Postby Fego » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:53 pm

abajan wrote:I wonder if it will appear on the 8 PM TWO. We'll know shortly.
EDIT: It doesn't.

Ummm, TWO covers five days and whatever shows up from this pouch won't be developed by the fifth day, imho, so no TWO may be until the 24th, "IF" the GFS is verified.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#64 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:03 pm

A lot of GFS ensembles take a pretty strong system up into Cuba and South Florida in the long-range, how the run ends at 384 hours below:

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#65 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:07 pm

gatorcane wrote:A lot of GFS ensembles take a pretty strong system up into Cuba and South Florida in the long-range, how the run ends at 384 hours below:

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The op run of the gfs seems to be the ensemble that's farthest south, goes against its ensembles
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#66 Postby blp » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:17 pm

Interesting tweet. We could have a Hadley Cell that might aid this being so far south.


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Levi Cowan ‏@TropicalTidbits
@pppapin @AndyHazelton @EricBlake12 Octobers can flip the Atlantic Hadley Cell on a dime. If this pattern pans out, Caribbean gets favorable
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#67 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:53 pm

blp wrote:Interesting tweet. We could have a Hadley Cell that might aid this being so far south.


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Levi Cowan ‏@TropicalTidbits
@pppapin @AndyHazelton @EricBlake12 Octobers can flip the Atlantic Hadley Cell on a dime. If this pattern pans out, Caribbean gets favorable
Embedded image[/Tweet]

What is a Hadley Cell?
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#68 Postby abajan » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:53 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
blp wrote:Interesting tweet. We could have a Hadley Cell that might aid this being so far south.


[Tweet]
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Levi Cowan ‏@TropicalTidbits
@pppapin @AndyHazelton @EricBlake12 Octobers can flip the Atlantic Hadley Cell on a dime. If this pattern pans out, Caribbean gets favorable
Embedded image[/Tweet]

What is a Hadley Cell?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsdxn70pSG4
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#69 Postby BigB0882 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:57 pm

Should Louisiana be worried about this at all? I know it is way far out but from what I have learned, it is pretty darn hard for a storm to get into the Gulf and make it as far west as Louisiana during October. Seems storms either continue heading due west or hook sharply which take them to Florida. Even a storm making it quite far west in the gulf can hook and still go to Florida due to geography of the land/gulf.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#70 Postby cajungal » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:05 pm

BigB0882 wrote:Should Louisiana be worried about this at all? I know it is way far out but from what I have learned, it is pretty darn hard for a storm to get into the Gulf and make it as far west as Louisiana during October. Seems storms either continue heading due west or hook sharply which take them to Florida. Even a storm making it quite far west in the gulf can hook and still go to Florida due to geography of the land/gulf.

Not yet. I would actually wait and see if any storm actually forms. I live in Louisiana too. Lili hit Oct 3rd. But yes Louisiana Oct storms are rare, Florida usually gets them.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#71 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:07 pm

In 2016 likely weak system into CA until I see a bonified TC sorry not buying into it. Bla bla GFS
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#72 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:47 pm

We'll ridge looks pretty strong in the se on 18z run that's going to be the story here and also if a front or trough comes
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#73 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:35 pm

Wave starts to leave africa at 36hrs on the 0zGFS
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#74 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:10 pm

like previous runs it seems to start to come together around 40W

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#75 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:24 pm

at 186 crashes into south america

at 192 the low relocates with the 500mb center
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#76 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:29 pm

at 198 it seems like it matches the location with the 12zrun if not just a tad like 5miles north at the same time

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#77 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:48 pm

Looks like a major hurricane in the yucatan channel at 360hrs
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#78 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:51 pm

00z GFS run ends this way.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#79 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:51 pm

Central Gulf at the end of the run, could extrapolate to maybe a panhandle of Florida landfall but that is a long way off and will change many times
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#80 Postby USTropics » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:52 pm

210 hours, the 00z GFS operational has P39L a tad bit more north then the past 4 runs on it's approach by SA. I don't see any significant land interaction on this run.

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The 00z GFS hasn't pushed back the development time, but it does have P39L spending a significantly longer duration in the Caribbean. Eventually this clips the Yucatan Peninsula at 360 hours:

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We're talking way too far out to take into realistic consideration, buy P39L is sitting in the central GOM at the end of the run.

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