2024 Cyclone Retirements (Breaking ATLC: Beryl, Helene, Milton; EPAC: John)

[SconnieCane]

Speaking of major Bermuda hurricane strikes, why did storms like Gonzalo and Nicole end up not getting retired while storms like Fabian did despite all affecting Bermuda as a major hurricane?

I would imagine it's because Fabian was the first one to affect Bermuda so directly in recent memory. I'll bet they were better prepared for the others

I think it's because Fabian was the only one to cause direct fatalities in Bermuda (the first since 1926).

IIRC, one of our Bermudian posters described Humberto's impact as "worse than Fabian," at least at their particular location.

[Teban54]

Per Wikipedia, Beryl caused 42 deaths in Texas and 3 elsewhere in CONUS, in addition to at least $6 billion in monetary damage. While the price tag may not be sufficient for retirement by 2020s standards (see Sally, Isaias and more), I wouldn't be surprised if US requests retirement based on the death toll alone.

However, the strongest case for retirement still comes from Lesser Antilles. In the country of Grenada, which includes Carriacou (where Beryl made landfall), Beryl caused 6 deaths and $450 million in damage. That's 20% of Grenada's GDP last year (the same for the state of Texas alone would have cost $532 billion). Likewise, the neighboring St. Vincent and the Grenadines saw 8 deaths and $300 mil in damage (15% of their GDP).

[Sciencerocks]

Yagi is probably going to get retired. The damage is mindblowing.

[xtyphooncyclonex]

Yagi is probably going to get retired. The damage is mindblowing.

The floods in the Philippines alone may have been convincing already.

Yagi is likely the strongest (based on bulletins) to hit China and Vietnam. This may be the last time we ever use the name.

[xtyphooncyclonex]

Yagi has led to at least $9.29 billion in damages according to Wikipedia from combined news reports. This does not include Vietnam's figures yet, so expect this to skyrocket. Deaths have gone past 150 and are increasing fast.

Vietnam, China, and the Philippines may jointly request for retirement. I'm not sure which would first push for it if they do not jointly do so.

[Sciencerocks]

 https://x.com/BackpirchCrew/status/1834665589622665377




This storm is gone!

[HurricaneRyan]

As Francine did not have any fatalities associated with it, we will likely be able to enjoy the Arthur memes again in 2030.

[xtyphooncyclonex]

Yagi went from bad to downright devastating. Hundreds more have perished in Myanmar, pushing the overall toll closer to 800. Damage is inching closer to $10 billion.

[GSBHurricane]

Yagi is certainly one for the record books. At least $15.3 billion in damage and 670 people dead, with 303 of them in Vietnam alone. We could see four countries requesting its retirement (China, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam). Has there any storm in the WPAC that’s been requested by four countries before? With Yagi added in we’ll likely see at least three names retired this season since the Philippines will likely request Ewiniar and Gaemi as they both caused at least 1 billion pesos in damage (well technically the criteria applies to their PAGASA names but the Philippines has been consistent since 2015 in requesting the corresponding international names of storms that have met PAGASA criteria for retirement).

[Category5Kaiju]

If some of these model runs pan out, looks like we may need a new female H name for 2030.

[MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS]

Speaking of major Bermuda hurricane strikes, why did storms like Gonzalo and Nicole end up not getting retired while storms like Fabian did despite all affecting Bermuda as a major hurricane?

Also add Humberto 2019 to the list. It was a Cat 3 when passing by Bermuda, though I can't remember if the island experienced the eyewall. Wikipedia says the NW coast experienced "sustained winds near Category 3 intensity".

NHC never mentioned it, but we had the eye in Humberto.

[CrazyC83]

If some of these model runs pan out, looks like we may need a new female H name for 2030.

Heather would be my first pick for replacement.

[Category5Kaiju]

If some of these model runs pan out, looks like we may need a new female H name for 2030.

Heather would be my first pick for replacement.

I like Heather too. Heidi and Holly aren’t bad imho either

[Sciencerocks]

Replace John with Jack

[Teban54]

If some of these model runs pan out, looks like we may need a new female H name for 2030.

Heather would be my first pick for replacement.

I like Heather too. Heidi and Holly aren’t bad imho either

Note that Heath is on Atlantic's auxiliary list. Not sure how much the similarity between Heath and Heather matters, though, since Julian and Julia are on back-to-back regular lists, and Paula and Paulette also co-exist on regular lists.

[xtyphooncyclonex]

Heidi is my top pick to replace Helene. Josu, Joel or Jorge for John if they luck Spanish names. Been wondering how we haven't had a James yet

[HurricaneRyan]

Brittany and Heather are my top picks to replace Beryl and Helene. Both are easy and common and recognizable in a similar vein to Matthew, Michelle, Melissa, Laura, Amanda, Andrea, Andrew, Alex, Julia, Kyle and Ian when they were selected as replacement names.

[HurricaneRyan]

Heidi is my top pick to replace Helene. Josu, Joel or Jorge for John if they luck Spanish names. Been wondering how we haven't had a James yet

Because the infamous "I' storm rarely has an equally infamous storm before or after it consecutively for some reason. The only "I" storms that had storms before or after that were also bad were Isabel 2003, Ivan 2004 and Irma 2017 - with Juan, Jeanne and Harvey all being just as bad.

Juan 1985 should have been retired as well given that it caused $1 billion which was a lot back then and it's possible that we could have had a replacement for Juan 2003 in that regard. But yeah, the J storm for some reason has never hit land or been bad enough to be retired.

[Torino]

Beryl and Helene, two original names going down (and Helene's been around since 1958!).

[Category5Kaiju]

Yeah, goodbye Helene. Another original name looking like it's seen its final days.