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#61 Postby HURAKAN » Tue May 08, 2007 12:29 pm

For those who have not seen the RECON plan for tomorrow:

ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. FLIGHT ONE AREA OFF SOUTH CAROLINA
A. 09/1200Z
B. AFXXX 01AAA INVEST
C. 09/0930Z
D. 31.8N 79.4W
E. 09/1100Z-09/1800Z
F. SFC TO 10,000FT

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPRPD.shtml?
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#62 Postby HURAKAN » Tue May 08, 2007 12:30 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 PM EDT TUE MAY 08 2007

...SPECIAL FEATURE...

A NON-TROPICAL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM...CENTERED NEAR 30.5N77W...OR
ABOUT 230 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF THE GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA
COASTS...HAS BEEN MOVING SLOWLY WESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH. THIS
SYSTEM IS PRODUCING GALE-FORCE WINDS AND HEAVY SURF ALONG THE
COASTS OF NORTH CAROLINA...SOUTH CAROLINA...AND GEORGIA...WITH
STRONGER WINDS OFFSHORE. THE 12Z QUIKSCAT PASS SHOWED 35-40 KT
WINDS OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST. THESE WINDS ARE CONTINUING TO
PRODUCE A SIGNIFICANT SWELL EVENT FOR THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST
AND THE BAHAMAS. BUOY 41010 CONTINUES TO REPORT SEAS NEAR 20 FT.
ASSOCIATED SHOWER ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED SINCE YESTERDAY...BUT
NO SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING OF THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED. THE LOW
IS BEING MONITORED FOR SIGNS OF TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE
DEVELOPMENT...AND AN AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT
WILL BE AVAILABLE TO INVESTIGATE THE SYSTEM TOMORROW
MORNING...IF NECESSARY.
PLEASE REFER TO THE HIGH SEAS FORECAST
AND STATEMENTS FROM LOCAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICES FOR MORE
DETAILS.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... 1714.shtml?
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#63 Postby cycloneye » Tue May 08, 2007 12:34 pm

skysummit wrote:12z Tropical Guidance....

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Is there a text of the model run? The link to the texts doesn't work for me.
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#64 Postby skysummit » Tue May 08, 2007 12:35 pm

cycloneye wrote:
skysummit wrote:12z Tropical Guidance....

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Is there a text of the model run? The link to the texts doesn't work for me.


I didn't see one yet. I got that off the NHC's ftp site. Here's the GFDL:

ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR

TROPICAL STORM INVEST 90L

INITIAL TIME 12Z MAY 8

DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.


FORECAST STORM POSITION

HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)

0 30.3 77.3 255./ 9.9
6 30.3 77.8 280./ 4.0
12 30.4 78.1 286./ 3.1
18 31.1 78.6 320./ 7.8
24 31.6 79.5 302./ 8.9
30 31.9 80.2 293./ 7.2
36 32.0 81.0 274./ 6.4
42 31.7 81.6 249./ 6.1
48 31.7 81.7 240./ .7
54 31.8 82.3 277./ 5.0
60 31.4 83.0 243./ 6.6
66 31.0 83.5 230./ 6.1
72 30.5 83.5 186./ 4.7
78 30.5 83.2 84./ 2.3
84 30.6 83.5 278./ 1.9
90 30.5 84.1 261./ 5.3
96 30.4 84.3 247./ 2.3
102 30.5 84.3 340./ 1.1
108 30.5 84.6 282./ 2.1
114 30.6 84.8 281./ 1.4
120 30.7 84.7 4./ 1.5
126 31.0 84.9 330./ 3.7
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#65 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue May 08, 2007 12:36 pm

yea. can i also have the link to the model map for the invests that included around 15 of them please?
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#66 Postby cycloneye » Tue May 08, 2007 12:38 pm

Ok skysummit,it now works as they released the GFDL text. :)

For those who dont have the link to the texts of the models here it is:

Text of model runs
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#67 Postby skysummit » Tue May 08, 2007 12:43 pm

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#68 Postby Rieyeuxs » Tue May 08, 2007 12:45 pm

Beautiful storm. It is too bad it won't track more eastward before the recurve. I agree that we need the rain!!!
From the latest SAL it looks like the Atlantic is too dry to develop it any further, although sea temps look warm. Any chance of this turning into a fish later?
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#69 Postby Stratusxpeye » Tue May 08, 2007 12:50 pm

So by these main page on the weather channel is this now a subtropical storm? Meaning that it would be named soon? Maybe after recon goes in if it doesnt die before than. http://www.weather.com/newscenter/tropi ... enter_news
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#70 Postby HURAKAN » Tue May 08, 2007 12:52 pm

Stratusxpeye wrote:So by these main page on the weather channel is this now a subtropical storm? Meaning that it would be named soon? Maybe after recon goes in if it doesnt die before than. http://www.weather.com/newscenter/tropi ... enter_news


TWC is going at full force with this system.

"During the overnight hours of Monday into Tuesday, the extratropical low evolved into a subtropical storm. A subtropical storm has a few characteristics of both an extratropical low and a tropical cyclone. First, it has convection, or thunderstorm activity, around a well-defined center of circulation. Second, it has become detached from its associated fronts (cold, warm, occluded). Finally, it has sustained gale/tropical storm force winds."
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#71 Postby artist » Tue May 08, 2007 12:53 pm

question for the pro's around here - if this takes the loop back out to sea - is there anything out there that could make it do a loop-de-loop to then return this way? The se coast of Fl. TIA
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#72 Postby HURAKAN » Tue May 08, 2007 1:27 pm

08/1745 UTC 30.1N 77.9W ST2.5/2.5 90L -- Atlantic Ocean

Slowing down as it moves SW.
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#73 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue May 08, 2007 1:31 pm

not good.
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#74 Postby artist » Tue May 08, 2007 1:32 pm

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#75 Postby HURAKAN » Tue May 08, 2007 1:39 pm

The track of the storm based on Dvorak.

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#76 Postby Fusion13 » Tue May 08, 2007 1:41 pm

This system is doing a lot of beach erosion and some minor coastal flooding is South Florida due to the swells and combined high tide now.
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#77 Postby sweetpea » Tue May 08, 2007 1:41 pm

Interesting article from our local news here in Orlando regarding the storm.

http://www.local6.com/weather/13278106/detail.html

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#78 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue May 08, 2007 1:42 pm

and this is coming from Max. This is not going to end well, even though we need all this rain.
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#79 Postby seaswing » Tue May 08, 2007 1:43 pm

oh but guys, we need this rain so desparately! seriously, I have friends that are under mandatory evacuation for wildfires right now. It is so smoky in Gainesville right now that people are using their headlights. I really hope this thing doesn't loop back out to sea.... if we don't get some rain, our area is going to be devastated. Not to mention the air quality makes it hard to breathe.....
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#80 Postby artist » Tue May 08, 2007 1:45 pm

what is interesting is he said there is not likely to be alot of rain. Just what we don't need - a wind storm.
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