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Re: Model runs & Discussion for Caribbean-GOM-Off Florida Coast

#681 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:42 pm

12z UKMET

UKMET shows formation in SE GOM and moves to Texas central Coast.
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Re: Second Depression to form in the GOM??

#682 Postby Sanibel » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:42 pm

I'm not sure what it is.
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Re: Possible homegrown development in the Bahamas

#683 Postby skysummit » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:44 pm

Sanibel wrote:I can't see any turning on satellite loop.


It's there. Plus the NHC disco mentions it.
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Re: Model runs & Discussion for Caribbean-GOM-Off Florida Coast

#684 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:45 pm

Can't tell if this is now a semi-offical JB prediction or not, but Texas as at least a tropical storm, just now, on the PPV JB page.


This weekend.
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#685 Postby Steve » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:45 pm

>>UKMET shows formation in SE GOM and moves to Texas central Coast.

Trending northward at the end of the run toward possibly Galveston or the GT area. Hmmmm.

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Re: Model runs & Discussion for Caribbean-GOM-Off Florida Coast

#686 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:47 pm

cycloneye wrote:12z UKMET

UKMET shows formation in SE GOM and moves to Texas central Coast.



But the UK Met Center text product doesn't have anything.
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#687 Postby Steve » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:47 pm

>>Can't tell if this is now a semi-offical JB prediction or not, but Texas as at least a tropical storm, just now, on the PPV JB page.

"at least a tropical storm" ain't the same as "probably a major", but we'll see with the evolution of time.

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Re: Possible homegrown development in the Bahamas

#688 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:49 pm

It's not a sign of immediate development, but Bahamian convection is developing right on cue:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-ir2.html

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-vis.html

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-avn.html

I think the TWD mentioned low-level turning near the Turks and Caicos/far SE Bahamas, too.
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Re: Possible homegrown development in the Bahamas

#689 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:54 pm

It is a bit hard to see, a bit more of a twist than a turn. If you center at about 77W 25N you can see the low clouds heading NW on your right. To your left they are going SW. To the south the appear to almost be stationary in the last frames.
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#690 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:12 pm

New Euro has it near Corpus Sunday.
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Re: Model runs & Discussion for Caribbean-GOM-Off Florida Coast

#691 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:13 pm

Yesterday it was New Orleans. No reason to start pinpointing Houston or Golden Triangle with nothing "formed" yet. Long week ahead.
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#692 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:14 pm

KFDM Meteorologist wrote:New Euro has it near Corpus Sunday.


The Link?
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Re: Model runs & Discussion for Caribbean-GOM-Off Florida Coast

#693 Postby Portastorm » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:14 pm

Here's a link to the 12z Euro ... hit on/near Corpus:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMW ... floop.html
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#694 Postby Meso » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:15 pm

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Long awaited 12z EURO
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#695 Postby bigGbear » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:21 pm

Meso wrote:[img]

Long awaited 12z EURO

Doesn't look like 12z
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Re: Model runs & Discussion for Caribbean-GOM-Off Florida Coast

#696 Postby ronjon » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:21 pm

Meso, that's actually today's 00Z run.
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#697 Postby skysummit » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:25 pm

The 12z EURO....really :)

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#698 Postby Meso » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:31 pm

Arg my bad.. I had the 12z run and then clicked back to change the forecast time and the date of the run went back with my browser :/ It'll teach me to sit and 'refresh' for 10 minutes
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Re: Model runs & Discussion for Caribbean-GOM-Off Florida Coast

#699 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:36 pm

Cut-n-paste of relevant part of KBRO AFD...


ALTHOUGH LOCAL
WEATHER CONDITIONS SHOULD NOT CHANGE MUCH HEADING INTO THE LATTER
HALF OF THE WEEK...NUMERICAL WEATHER MODELS SUGGEST THAT MULTIPLE
FACTORS WILL COMBINE TO DEVELOP A LOW IN THE EASTERN GULF OF
MEXICO. A LINGERING COLD FRONTAL BOUNDARY...A MID LEVEL TROUGH OR
LOW DIGGING SOUTH...AND A TROPICAL WAVE MOVING THROUGH THE
CARRIBEAN WILL ALL CONTRIBUTE TO FORMING A SURFACE LOW IN THE GULF
THAT MAY HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT. THE GFS MODEL
CURRENTLY SHOWS THE LOW DRIFTING WEST ACROSS THE NORTHERN GULF OF
MEXICO AND THEN INLAND OVER THE CENTRAL TEXAS COAST. THIS FEATURE
WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED.
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Re: Possible homegrown development in the Bahamas

#700 Postby ronjon » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:36 pm

I think we are slowly beginning to see a model consensus developing on a system developing off the east coast of FL near the Bahamas. GFS, CMC, & NAM showing this development. There will be the mid-level energy dropping SW off of NE FL which may be the spark to get the convection going over the Bahamas spinning into a low pressure system. The question now is how strong it will get prior to moving west over the FL peninsula - will it stay weak or will it pull a Katrina? In either case, once it's in the GOM there can be little doubt what will happen then.
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