Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Is Invest 97L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#701 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:04 am

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#702 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:19 am

06Z GEFS day 5, I'd say that is some consensus

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#703 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:22 am

Day 7:

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#704 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:26 am

Day 10. Look how they are well east of the GFS operational. By the way remarkable consensus that far out

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#705 Postby Kazmit » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:31 am

I have a bad feeling about this one. The waters in the western Caribbean are quite warm right now, and numerous models predict a Cat 4 or 5.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#706 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:32 am

Up to 50% now and NHC says a depression could form before it reaches the Lesser Antilles
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#707 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:32 am

Up to 10%-50%

A tropical wave, accompanied by a broad area of low pressure, is
located south of the Cabo Verde Islands. This disturbance is
expected to move rapidly westward across the tropical Atlantic
Ocean at 20 to 25 mph for the next several days. Environmental
conditions are expected to become conducive for gradual development,
and a tropical depression could form while the system approaches the
Lesser Antilles and moves into the Caribbean Sea by the middle of
next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent


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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#708 Postby ronjon » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:32 am

Ensemble run hints at further east shifts in track 10 days out.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#709 Postby ronjon » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:39 am

Future "Matthew" looks like a beast. Could be our first major hurricane landfall in US since Wilma?
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#710 Postby abajan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:51 am

Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like a cat 1 hurricane entering the Islands on the 0zGFS

Somehow, I highly doubt that will happen. While I understand what Alyono stated yesterday about a fast moving system not necessarily meaning high shear, the most I'm currently expecting for Barbados and the Windward Islands is a tropical storm with maximum sustained winds of 55 mph or so, and some hurricane force gusts. Not that I'll let my guard down.

As to the Western Caribbean, that's another story altogether. I think it's going to bomb like crazy by the time it gets there. We could easily see a system approaching Cat 5.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#711 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:53 am

So what are you all thinking as far as when this becomes 97l?
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#712 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:00 am

gatorcane wrote:So what are you all thinking as far as when this becomes 97l?


Sometime today or on Sunday.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#713 Postby CourierPR » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:03 am

donjon wrote:Ensemble run hints at further east shifts in track 10 days out.


Yes, and folks have been talking about it getting into the Western Caribbean but I wonder if it will get that far west.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#714 Postby abajan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:03 am

gatorcane wrote:So what are you all thinking as far as when this becomes 97l?

Good question. I thought that would've happened yesterday but now I'm not sure it'll even happen today. :lol:
To my untrained eye, it just doesn't seem to be in any hurry to get its act together.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#715 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:06 am

cycloneye wrote:
gatorcane wrote:So what are you all thinking as far as when this becomes 97l?


Sometime today or on Sunday.


Not sure when but it's a lock to happen.

Also think this ends MDR season and does it with a bang.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#716 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:09 am

abajan wrote:
gatorcane wrote:So what are you all thinking as far as when this becomes 97l?

Good question. I thought that would've happened yesterday but now I'm not sure it'll even happen today. :lol:
To my untrained eye, it just doesn't seem to be in any hurry to get its act together.


Many times in past years,they had Invests for disorganized systems but this one IMO can be a invest for them to run the tropical models as there is consensus among the global ones.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#717 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:13 am

Abajan.In terms of the % to be a invest,it doesn't matter much as they can upgrade to invest from 10% thru 30%.In fact 10% invests had been up many times but the most had been up at 20%.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#718 Postby KWT » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:13 am

The big thing to note with the GFS is it forms this much further east than other models so not surprising the ensembles are further east.

My gut is this goes deep into the Caribbean but north of ECM and CMC. Probable hurricane.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#719 Postby robbielyn » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:34 am

I've never been in a major before and dont want to. but so I could get an idea if I should evacuate or not ive created a scenario.. lets suppose it is a cat 3 at landfall in appalach 247 mi nw of me I'm just north of tampa in hernando county. Say cat 3 winds in a 20-30 mi radius. how strong would would sustained winds be in my area (im 8.8 miles east from the coastline?) I do live in a mobile home. I know a lot of the times as these powerful hurricanes can weaken a category by the time it makes landfall so this was a cat 4 in the gulf. so again what would sustained winds be in my area?
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 39L)

#720 Postby AJC3 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:44 am

REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
0830 AM EDT SAT 24 SEPTEMBER 2016
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 25/1100Z TO 26/1100Z SEPTEMBER 2016
TCPOD NUMBER.....19-121

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
3. ADDITIONAL DAY OUTLOOK: PROBABLE LOW LEVEL INVEST OF A
DEVELOPING SYSTEM NEAR 12.5N 54.0W AT 27/1800Z.

4. REMARKS:
A. THE NOAA G-IV WILL FLY A RESEARCH MISSION TODAY AROUND
KARL AT 24/1730Z.
B. THE P-3 WILL A RESEARCH MISSION IN AND AROUND KARL
TODAY AT 24/1800Z.

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.

$$
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