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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#761 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:45 am

I don't trust the ECMWF solution of the storm stalling for 3 days before moving inland, given the predicted wind shear. I think it will most likely move ashore on the Alabama coast, not far west of Pensacola on Wednesday morning. However, don't focus on the landfall point, as heavy rain may extend hundreds of miles to the east, including even the FL Peninsula. Sheared TS at landfall, 45-50 kts.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#762 Postby stormlover2013 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:46 am

I wish we could get a dang invest, maybe we can get one today...
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#763 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:47 am

SFLcane wrote:
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SFLcane wrote:For us in Florida as wxman57 has been stating this is not a threat thanks to the semi-permanent high pressure system parked of the southeast. For the gulfcoast look out if this thing finds a pocket of low shear sst's are plenty warm for a potent storm.

For the peninsula this is likely not a direct landfall threat, but I would not rule out a FL panhandle landfall. 06z GEFS Ensembles have trended right again and stronger, though you have to take into account that the GFS loves to break down ridges too much.


I meant extreme southeast florida but yea panhandle sure this could come up your way. Lets get an invest first or a well established low level circulation. :wink:

Yeah I’m surprised this isn’t an invest yet too! We have an area of low pressure with a 30/60% chance of development, wonder what we’re missing?
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#764 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:47 am

UL forecast conditions for the GOM next week are not really that bad for this time of the year, per the GFS ensembles.

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#765 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:47 am

Is it early August?

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#766 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:49 am

And now what will visible show us this morning... hmmm

Radar is interesting but to far from where the circ would be to be conclusive.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#767 Postby Dean4Storms » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:50 am

I would make the case for now that everyone from Tampa northward then through the FL Panhandle to Eastern half of LA are all possibilities with the highest threat from New Orleans to Cross City, FL.

Would think for a South FL strike it would need to sit in the Western Carib. till mid to late next week. All depends on timing with any front and the Low's location.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#768 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:51 am

Yep wxman57 lob-sided with most of wx on its east side. Could be a tornado threat across the FL peninsula with rainbands.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#769 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:51 am

wxman57 wrote:I don't trust the ECMWF solution of the storm stalling for 3 days before moving inland, given the predicted wind shear. I think it will most likely move ashore on the Alabama coast, not far west of Pensacola on Wednesday morning. However, don't focus on the landfall point, as heavy rain may extend hundreds of miles to the east, including even the FL Peninsula. Sheared TS at landfall, 45-50 kts.
this is the most reasonable solution I have seen so far, models are ok but at the end of the day the day i will go with 57's forecast on this one
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#770 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:53 am

06z GFS does not even develop this... :roll:
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#771 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:55 am

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#772 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:56 am

First vis sat loop shows yet another weak LLC/eddy rotating around out of the high clouds north of the eastern Honduran coast. This still has a long way to go. IMO.

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#773 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:02 am

00z EPS..

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#774 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:11 am

Not much to see on that loop NDG this thing has a long way to go before it becomes a real problem for anyone.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#775 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:13 am

On the other hand maybe we do have an invest :lol:

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#776 Postby SconnieCane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:16 am

LOL going for the exceedingly rare EPAC to ATL crossover. :lol:
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#777 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:17 am

If that is indeed were llc develops all bets are off on were this makes landfall i'd think.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#778 Postby Frank P » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:22 am

Well on the vis sat loops that area in the pacific looks like it has the best circulation of any in the gyre.. not surprised at all after just reviewing the loops.. still think it will all depend on timing issue as the case in most late season storms with forecasted front approaching... faster = NGOM, slower = FL Panhandle and areas eastward... so unless it gets up and starts to get running northward every passing day would let me to think it would be from the west panhandle and points eastward.. JMHO...
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#779 Postby stormlover2013 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:25 am

what's sad is the nam has been pretty consistent short term on this but we know the nam is usually bad
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#780 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:27 am

Frank P wrote:Well on the vis sat loops that area in the pacific looks like it has the best circulation of any in the gyre.. not surprised at all after just reviewing the loops.. still think it will all depend on timing issue as the case in most late season storms with forecasted front approaching... faster = NGOM, slower = FL Panhandle and areas eastward... so unless it gets up and starts to get running northward every passing day would let me to think it would be from the west panhandle and points eastward.. JMHO...


Slowler movement -> more Eastward
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