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Re: Possible North GOM disturbance

#81 Postby boca » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:44 pm

vbhoutex wrote:Been looking at both satellite loops and surface obs for a good while today. What I am seeing in the sat loops is a drift SW of the entire system-not sure where NHC is finding the NW component unless it is something they expect later on. Saw several outflow boundaries thrown out on both the NW and Se sides of this. If there is any type of circulation out there attm it is at the mid levels. Low level flow is still obviously offshore to me towards the SW.
The bouys and reporting stations in the area also indicate the SW drift of this system with their winds and how they are changing. I found no pressure falls, which isn't that unusual at this time of day, but I do not see any indication that this has made it down to the surface as more than a broad low pressure trof as NHC said.
It will have to persist for at least another 24-36 hours with good convection if it wants to have a chance to develop further, imo. I certainly won't rule it out because we have seen it happen in the past, but attm I don't see a lot of promise in this one.

I wonder if this would pull a Danny of 1997.Its funny its in the same locale too.
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Re: Possible North GOM disturbance

#82 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:53 pm

Danny was South of Louisiana, and moved Northeast to catch Venice, LA, IIRC

Yep, Wiki agrees...

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Re: Possible North GOM disturbance

#83 Postby TampaFl » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:58 pm

From NWS Tampa BAy Monday afternoon AFD:

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FXUS62 KTBW 281727
AFDTBW

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
127 PM EDT MON JUL 28 2008

.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT - WEDNESDAY)...MUCH OF THE SAME OVER THE SHORT
TERM WITH THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH ACROSS THE EASTERN SEABOARD...AND
THE SURFACE RIDGE AXIS DRAPED ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA. WITH THE VERY
MOIST AIRMASS AND SOUTH AND SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW CONTINUING...EXPECT
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE COASTAL WATERS AND
ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST IN THE OVERNIGHT AND MORNING HOURS. THERE
WILL BE A CHANCE OF WATERSPOUTS ALONG THE COAST AND AREA BAYS EACH
MORNING. IN THE AFTERNOON...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL BECOME
NUMEROUS INLAND ALONG THE SEA BREEZE AND OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES. HIGH
TEMPERATURES MAY BE HELD DOWN A DEGREE OR TWO COMPARED WITH
CLIMATOLOGY DUE TO CLOUD COVER. LOW TEMPS WILL BE NEAR NORMAL.

.LONG TERM (WEDNESDAY NIGHT-MONDAY)...AFTER SEVERAL DAYS WORTH OF
PERSISTENCE FORECASTING...NOW SEEING SOME HINT AT A CHANGE TOWARD
THE END OF THE PERIOD. FIRST OFF WILL CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH THE
HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE AXIS WELL TO OUR SOUTH PRODUCING MORNING
SHOWERS AND STORMS OVER THE WATERS SHIFTING FOCUS INLAND EACH
AFTERNOON. THEN LONG RANGE MODELS COMING INTO AGREEMENT ON AN
UPPER LOW DEVELOPING IN THE EASTERN GULF FOR THE WEEKEND AND THEN
SHIFTING WEST MONDAY. THE SURFACE PATTERN IS MORE IN
QUESTION...WITH THE ECMWF HAVING A SURFACE REFLECTION TO THE UPPER
LOW AND THE DGEX DEVELOPING A LOW OFF THE EAST COAST.
FOR NOW WILL
KEEP NEAR CLIMO POPS TOWARD THE END OF THE PERIOD. SHOULD THE
UPPER LOW DEEPEN...WE COULD SEE SOME STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS
DEVELOP GIVEN THE COLD POOL ALOFT.

TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN BELOW NORMAL FOR HIGHS AND ABOVE NORMAL FOR
LOWS BECAUSE OF THE ONSHORE FLOW. THEN COULD SEE A WARMUP BY END OF
THE PERIOD BECAUSE OF A SHIFTING SURFACE FLOW...HOWEVER ADDITIONAL
CLOUD COVER MAY NEGATE THAT SHIFTS WARMING.

&&

.AVIATION...BULK OF STORMS NOW GENERALLY EAST OF TAF SITES...BUT
CANNOT RULE OUT ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT UPSTREAM SO HAVE KEPT IN
VICINITY STORMS THROUGH EARLY EVENING. PROBABILITIES FOR
REGENERATION HIGHER AT SOUTHWEST FLORIDA SITES SO HAVE KEPT IN MID
AFTERNOON TEMPO GROUPS THERE. THEN EXPECT ANOTHER ROUND OF SHOWERS
AND STORMS TOMORROW MORNING AS ATMOSPHERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE MORE
MOIST THAN NORMAL.

&&

.MARINE...PLACEMENT OF SURFACE RIDGE AXIS OVER SOUTH FLORIDA WILL
MAINTAIN THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST ONSHORE GRADIENT THROUGH THE
PERIOD. OUTSIDE OF SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY...NO
SIGNIFICANT WIND OR WAVE CONCERNS ARE EXPECTED.

&&

.FIRE WEATHER...NO FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS ARE ANTICIPATED DUE TO THE
ABUNDANCE OF MOISTURE AND ASSOCIATED RAINFALL ACTIVITY ACROSS THE
REGION.

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
TPA 75 88 76 87 / 30 70 40 60
FMY 75 88 76 89 / 30 60 30 50
GIF 75 89 75 89 / 30 70 40 60
SRQ 76 88 76 87 / 30 70 40 60
BKV 73 88 73 87 / 30 70 40 60
SPG 78 87 78 87 / 30 70 40 60

&&

.TBW WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
FL...NONE.
GULF WATERS...NONE.

&&

SHORT TERM...KENNEDY/LAMARRE
LONG TERM...SHARP
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#84 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:10 pm

Why did the title of the thread change back to the original title?
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#85 Postby N2Storms » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:11 pm

[quote="Stormcenter"]Why did the title of thread change back to old title?[/quote]

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I guess most everyone has written this one off and turned their attention back towards the E. Atlantic
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#86 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:13 pm

N2Storms wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Why did the title of thread change back to old title?


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I guess most everyone has written this one off and turned their attention back towards the E. Atlantic


That's funny...the eastern Atlantic disturbance is 2 weeks away (U.S. mainland) and this is right along the coastline....go figure.
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#87 Postby N2Storms » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:21 pm

[quote="Stormcenter"][quote="N2Storms"][quote="Stormcenter"]Why did the title of thread change back to old title?[/quote]

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I guess most everyone has written this one off and turned their attention back towards the E. Atlantic[/quote]

That's funny...the eastern Atlantic disturbance is 2 weeks away (U.S. mainland) and this is right along the coastline....go figure.[/quote]


I hear ya...we are just about to get another soaker here...we have been needing some rain and we had decent showers both Sat and Sun and now it looks like we're going for the tri-fecta
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Re: Anyone else see this?

#88 Postby LaBreeze » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:39 pm

I heard from two local mets that this "cloudiness" was expected to move westerly across the northern GOM.  We need some relief from this heat - it's been extremely hot (scorching) these last few days.  Something's got to give.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#89 Postby fwbbreeze » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:52 pm

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#90 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:59 pm

A new burst of convection due south of the mouth of the MS.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/SAT_ ... m16ir.html
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#91 Postby Johnny » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:23 pm

It's 4:25 Ed with plenty of convection still in this area. :D


This might not amount too much but it looks to be doing what Alicia did....movement wise, not strength wise.
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#92 Postby CajunMama » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:37 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Why did the title of the thread change back to the original title?


because we are not supposed to change the title of a thread unless the author gives us permission except in the case of a storm that gets named. Plus when one goes looking for a thread 1/2 the time you can't find the thread you were looking for because the title has been changed.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#93 Postby sealbach » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:15 pm

lol...thanks...i was just looking for this thread a while ago.

Will this bring any rain to setx?
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#94 Postby TexWx » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:32 pm

I'm thinking this will poof out.
Isn't there high pressure right out ahead of it?
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#95 Postby MGC » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:59 pm

I don't see this moving NW but westward with the flow around the high over La/Tx. I doubt this developes any time soon....MGC
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#96 Postby Sanibel » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:12 pm

May not be any surface feature associated with this.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#97 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:14 pm

Sanibel wrote:May not be any surface feature associated with this.


SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IN THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO IS
ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK SURFACE TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE. NO
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED AS THE TROUGH
MOVES SLOWLY NORTHWESTWARD.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#98 Postby LaBreeze » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:33 pm

We're hearing a slow westerly movement from our local mets here.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#99 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:35 pm

ABNT20 KNHC 282332
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT MON JUL 28 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL GULF OF
MEXICO IS ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK SURFACE TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE.
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE FORECAST TO BE UNFAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM AS IT MOVES SLOWLY NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD
OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.

http://asp1.sbs.ohio-state.edu/tropical ... c/outlook/
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#100 Postby ronjon » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:43 pm

18Z NAM shows low pressure development and moves it east-northeast into big bend area. Yes, I know its the NAM so take it with a grain of salt.

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