Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands (INVEST 94L is up)

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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#81 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:54 pm

cycloneye wrote:I thought after PR it would weaken but it gets more energetic in the Bahamas.What a longtracker for early July standards.


That run reminds me of Bertha (2014)
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#82 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:56 pm

RL3AO wrote:Here's my take away from the 18z GFS

Positives:
* Strong easterly wave
* Positive 850 zonal wind anomalies
* 200mb flow is mostly anticyclonic and westerly
* TUTTs are well west and north (western Caribbean and N of PR)

Negatives:
* Some dry air to the north and west of the wave (recent SAL outbreak)
* Large scale subsidence (-MJO/-CCKW)
* It's June 29th

I can see why the GFS is developing it. I can also see why other models aren't. Not sure what to think.


Yeah it is really just the GFS Op on its own currently I do believe. Getting closer to time to put up or shut up.
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#83 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:57 pm

Will NHC mention it in next TWO or they wait for Euro?
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#84 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:28 pm

cycloneye wrote:Will NHC mention it in next TWO or they wait for Euro?


No at 8.
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#85 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:50 pm

Some decent GEFS support, but so far not much else from other models.


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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#86 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:04 pm

A far eastern Atlantic tropical wave has its axis along 21W from
02N to 20N, moving westward at 10-15 kt. This wave remains
embedded within an envelope of southwesterly monsoonal moisture
that observed in latest satellite imagery to be present just
offshore the coast of Africa. Scattered moderate to isolated
strong convection is within 60 nm east of the axis from 09N to
12N. Scattered moderate convection is within 300 nm west of the
axis from 04N to 10N.
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#87 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:55 pm

Humor from Mark Sudduth.

@hurricanetrack
You see, this is why you can't trust the GFS, or any other model, at long ranges. Enjoy! #shrek #gfs


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 https://twitter.com/hurricanetrack/status/880566181291327492


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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#88 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:00 pm

if only gfs show it that mean gfs got some thing wrong if other show system and you say hmmmmm
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#89 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:07 pm

I'm at least 90% sure the GFS is up to it's usual tricks showing TC development within the next week. The Euro on the other hand shows nothing but high pressure(suppressed air).
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#90 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:09 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:I'm at least 90% sure the GFS is up to it's usual tricks showing TC development within the next week. The Euro on the other hand shows nothing but high pressure(suppressed air).


The Euro has a closed 850 low with this wave in seven days. It just washes it out after that. Certainly not "nothing but high pressure".

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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#91 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:13 pm

Very weak on the 12z Euro Parallel. Lowest pressure is 1014mb.
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#92 Postby Fego » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:20 pm

:uarrow:
Is that a private page (ECM Parallel)?
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#93 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:23 pm

Fego wrote::uarrow:
Is that a private page (ECM Parallel)?

It's supposed to be pushed out and replace the OP Euro in July.
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#94 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:50 pm

RL3AO wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:I'm at least 90% sure the GFS is up to it's usual tricks showing TC development within the next week. The Euro on the other hand shows nothing but high pressure(suppressed air).


The Euro has a closed 850 low with this wave in seven days. It just washes it out after that. Certainly not "nothing but high pressure".

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Then how do you explain this?

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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#95 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:54 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Then how do you explain this?

http://i65.tinypic.com/zilgmb.png[/img]


Whats there to explain? It's a weak closed low that doesn't develop into a TC.
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#96 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:57 pm

Looks like the 0z GFS is gonna develop it in a similar manner.

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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#97 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:05 pm

RL3AO wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Then how do you explain this?

http://i65.tinypic.com/zilgmb.png[/img]


Whats there to explain? It's a weak closed low that doesn't develop into a TC.

I just notice all that high pressure surrounding it.
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#98 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:08 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
RL3AO wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Then how do you explain this?

http://i65.tinypic.com/zilgmb.png[/img]


Whats there to explain? It's a weak closed low that doesn't develop into a TC.

I just notice all that high pressure surrounding it.


Those are anomalies compared to climatology. There's above average pressures in the eastern Atlantic. Any weak low is going to have higher than usual pressures.
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#99 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:24 pm

A handful of positives. A few big negatives. Unlikely to develop but still interesting.
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Re: Strong Wave in Eastern Atlantic

#100 Postby Alyono » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:41 pm

dissipates it east of the islands
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