Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Is Invest 97L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#961 Postby blp » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:44 pm

I expect the models overall to handle this system better than with 92L/Hermine. It appears the models all agree on a very good environment for the system to develop which should lead to more consistency. Also the models always do better when you have a well defined system and they will have one once in the Caribbean.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#962 Postby Alyono » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:51 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
tolakram wrote:A strengthening storm in the graveyard? Does that really sound reasonable? Anything can happen, but I wonder if development will be delayed until the western Caribbean.


A storm can strengthen in the graveyard, so long as it establishes itself before it reaches the Islands as a self sustaining tropical cyclone with a closed LLC. See Felix and Dean in 2007.


They can also form in the eastern Caribbean. See Cesar, Chantal, Claudette, Mindy, Dennis, Alpha, Gamma, Noel, Gustav, Omar, Emily (2011), Gabrielle
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#963 Postby colbroe » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:01 pm

Looks like the thunder storm activity is currently consolidating ,if the trend continues we will have depression very soon.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#964 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:04 pm

Long-range GFS ensembles are again mostly east of the operational by a decent amount. Note all of them show a significant system.

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#965 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:08 pm

Not liking the last few runs of the GFS :eek:
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#966 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:10 pm

Wide Atlantic shot and the system is off on the far bottom-right. It is building convection tonight.

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#967 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:13 pm

Alyono wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
tolakram wrote:A strengthening storm in the graveyard? Does that really sound reasonable? Anything can happen, but I wonder if development will be delayed until the western Caribbean.


A storm can strengthen in the graveyard, so long as it establishes itself before it reaches the Islands as a self sustaining tropical cyclone with a closed LLC. See Felix and Dean in 2007.


They can also form in the eastern Caribbean. See Cesar, Chantal, Claudette, Mindy, Dennis, Alpha, Gamma, Noel, Gustav, Omar, Emily (2011), Gabrielle


Add Emily 2005 as well (that name should have been retired then)
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#968 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:14 pm

Hard to believe they have this up to 70% in the 5 day yet no invest
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#969 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:20 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#970 Postby abajan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:22 pm

gatorcane wrote:Wide Atlantic shot and the system is off on the far bottom-right. It is building convection tonight.

http://s21.postimg.org/xlwnyz147/avn_animated.gif

I'm wondering if that isn't just the usual diurnal waxing of convection. If it persists a couple hours after sunrise, it may indeed be well on its way.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#971 Postby GCANE » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:23 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#972 Postby Dylan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:28 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:Hard to believe they have this up to 70% in the 5 day yet no invest


The NHC is waiting for a Microwave Image so they can plot it & declare it.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#973 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:32 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#974 Postby robbielyn » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:34 pm


really? well that settles it. It's going to mexico! Hasta la vista bebe!
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#975 Postby centuryv58 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:35 pm



Great. Something to look forward to in my nightmares.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#976 Postby robbielyn » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:36 pm


that wont ever happen. NEXT!
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#977 Postby Alyono » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:46 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
Alyono wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
A storm can strengthen in the graveyard, so long as it establishes itself before it reaches the Islands as a self sustaining tropical cyclone with a closed LLC. See Felix and Dean in 2007.


They can also form in the eastern Caribbean. See Cesar, Chantal, Claudette, Mindy, Dennis, Alpha, Gamma, Noel, Gustav, Omar, Emily (2011), Gabrielle


Add Emily 2005 as well (that name should have been retired then)


Emily was a 75 kt hurricane when it smacked Grenada. it formed well east of the Caribbean
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#978 Postby Alyono » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:47 pm

the convection is 5 degrees ahead of the area to focus on
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#979 Postby stormlover2013 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:48 pm

Alyono- what are your thoughts?? How do you think the upper air pattern will end up by looking at all the data I know it's early but what is your gut telling you ?
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#980 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:49 pm

GFS Simulated IR. Would certainly make Floridians rather nervous if it verified.

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