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New storm in 2011 reanalysis? Is this article accurate?

#1 Postby Dean_175 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:44 pm

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weathe ... 2369.story
It came out just an hour ago. This is not talking about tammy, it is talking about another storm that they have just caught in re-analysis


EDIT: I emailed the NHC. Yes , it is official.

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Hello Michael,

Yes, it is official. A TCR will be posted on the NHC website upon completion.

-NHC Public Affairs
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Re: New storm in 2011 reanalysis? Is this article accurate?

#2 Postby somethingfunny » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:03 pm

Between Bermuda and Nova Scotia in early September? I'm not sure what they're referring to. It's not on the NHC's tropical cyclone reports page.
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#3 Postby RL3AO » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:11 pm

Keep the eyes out for the TCR I guess.
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#4 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:58 pm

That must have been the system many of us complained about because it wasn't recognized even though it looked waaaay better than Jose.
I don't know the exact invest number though.
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#5 Postby wxman57 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:00 pm

Extratropical94 wrote:That must have been the system many of us complained about because it wasn't recognized even though it looked waaaay better than Jose.
I don't know the exact invest number though.


It appears to be a frontal low that formed ahead of Katia on the 1-2 of Sept.
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#6 Postby Extratropical94 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:03 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Extratropical94 wrote:That must have been the system many of us complained about because it wasn't recognized even though it looked waaaay better than Jose.
I don't know the exact invest number though.


It appears to be a frontal low that formed ahead of Katia on the 1-2 of Sept. It never was an invest.


Yeah, you're right, that was the point we were talking about.
Well, I think if the NHC ups this one to a TS/STS, they could do the same with the frontal low directly after Franklin (the one which spawned from the same front).
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Re: New storm in 2011 reanalysis? Is this article accurate?

#7 Postby Hurricanehink » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:55 pm

I believe it was this storm south of Nova Scotia

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The NHC said this:

UPDATED...THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 360 MILES NORTH
OF BERMUDA APPEARS TO BE ACQUIRING SOME TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS.
ALTHOUGH UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT...SCATTEROMETER DATA INDICATE THAT THE SYSTEM IS
PRODUCING WINDS OF TROPICAL STORM FORCE...AND ONLY A SLIGHT
INCREASE IN THE ORGANIZATION OF THIS SYSTEM COULD RESULT IN THE
FORMATION OF A TROPICAL STORM. THE LOW IS MOVING LITTLE AT THIS
TIME...BUT SHOULD BEGIN TO MOVE NORTHEASTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH
TONIGHT. THIS SYSTEM HAS A MEDIUM CHANCE...50 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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#8 Postby Hurricanehink » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:59 pm

To be honest, I was more expecting the subtropical storm in October that hit eastern Florida to be upgraded in post-analysis. As far as I can tell, two storms upgraded in post-analysis hasn't happened since 1976.
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#9 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:19 pm

It was an invest...Declared 94L by the National Hurricane Center on August 31st, lasting through September 2nd.

http://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/store_invest/btk/bal942011.dat.201109080000

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wxman57 wrote:
Extratropical94 wrote:That must have been the system many of us complained about because it wasn't recognized even though it looked waaaay better than Jose.
I don't know the exact invest number though.


It appears to be a frontal low that formed ahead of Katia on the 1-2 of Sept. It never was an invest.
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Re: New storm in 2011 reanalysis? Is this article accurate?

#10 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:20 pm

Do you by any chance have a copy of the email, for confirmation?
Dean_175 wrote:http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/storm-center-blog/sfl-2011-gains-a-hurricane-and-storm-20111121,0,2522369.story
It came out just an hour ago. This is not talking about tammy, it is talking about another storm that they have just caught in re-analysis


EDIT: I emailed the NHC. Yes , it is official.
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Re: New storm in 2011 reanalysis? Is this article accurate?

#11 Postby bg1 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:27 am

I remember this storm... it barely became detached from the front before weakening iirc.
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Re: New storm in 2011 reanalysis? Is this article accurate?

#12 Postby wxman57 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:49 am

Yes, it was Invest 94L on the 1st of September. Found a sat pic of it that I'd saved. Thought they might upgrade it to "Lee" at the time, but the NHC elected not to call it a TS:

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#13 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:37 am

Is this not like a reviewable play in the NFL? I mean, the review the play months after it happened? Why does this sound strange to me?
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#14 Postby RL3AO » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:46 am

Tireman4 wrote:Is this not like a reviewable play in the NFL? I mean, the review the play months after it happened? Why does this sound strange to me?


Usually some data will come in afterwards or they will catch something they missed while the event was happening.
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#15 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:01 pm

Also I would personally classify TD10 as a tropical storm as Dvorak had T2.5 on several occasions I believe.
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Re: New storm in 2011 reanalysis? Is this article accurate?

#16 Postby Ptarmigan » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:08 pm

Assuming we had 19 storms this season so far, it would tie with 1995 and 2010. It is odd to see 19 storms in back to back season. I know 2003 and 2004 were active and 2005 was record breaking.
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#17 Postby RL3AO » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:42 pm

Might not be the only one. According to one of the guys on wikipedia who works at HPC the early october system will be discussed at the NOAA Hurricane Conference next week.

Twas the one off the east coast right?
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#18 Postby Hurricanehink » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:52 pm

RL3AO wrote:Might not be the only one. According to one of the guys on wikipedia who works at HPC the early october system will be discussed at the NOAA Hurricane Conference next week.

Twas the one off the east coast right?


Yea, I'm in discussion with him on WP. The same person made this rainfall map. http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/tropical/rain/earlyoct2011flgale.html
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#19 Postby RL3AO » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:56 pm

Always nice having a guy like Dr. Roth around.
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#20 Postby bg1 » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:44 am

Hurricanehink wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Might not be the only one. According to one of the guys on wikipedia who works at HPC the early october system will be discussed at the NOAA Hurricane Conference next week.

Twas the one off the east coast right?


Yea, I'm in discussion with him on WP. The same person made this rainfall map. http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/tropical/rain/earlyoct2011flgale.html


Interesting track. :D
Was this that area that was only given a 40% chance? Any pictures?

So this would bring the total to 20/7/3. Much more active than it has felt.

Any chance of that low south of Bermuda (I think right after Jose) being reviewed?
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