2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#461 Postby Cpv17 » Wed May 25, 2022 9:37 am

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wxman57 wrote:GFS does not look like it has a clue beyond the next 5-7 days, but I take notice when the Euro indicates a low in the BoC next Tue-Wed. However, both models indicate a quite hostile environment north of the BoC. The low on the Euro looks subtropical after day 7. For now, I'd say maybe a 20% chance of Alex in the BoC next Wed-Thu. Nothing to indicate anything strong. Possibly a weak, sheared TS. If it tracks north, the environment is very hostile. I'll be in San Antonio for a presentation next Tuesday and we have 4 drills to present on Wednesday. Good timing... NOT!


I don’t think many people would complain about south Texas getting a sloppy ts to give us some drought/heat relief.


Given the strong west to east flow across the Gulf, it's unlikely we'll get any moisture out of this system.


Yeah I was afraid of that.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#462 Postby BobHarlem » Wed May 25, 2022 12:48 pm

12z gfs is bugging Bermuda. Also, there's a really weird looking swirl on Satellite in the Southwest Gulf today.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#463 Postby AlphaToOmega » Wed May 25, 2022 2:16 pm

It looks more and more likely that our pre-season streak will be broken. Disappointing start
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#464 Postby zzh » Wed May 25, 2022 2:23 pm

AlphaToOmega wrote:It looks more and more likely that our pre-season streak will be broken. Disappointing start

No.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#465 Postby toad strangler » Wed May 25, 2022 2:28 pm

AlphaToOmega wrote:It looks more and more likely that our pre-season streak will be broken. Disappointing start


lol

I wouldn't expect much before August. ANYTHING that happens before is house money.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#466 Postby skyline385 » Wed May 25, 2022 4:08 pm

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Lots of activity on 12Z EPS
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#467 Postby N2FSU » Thu May 26, 2022 3:09 am

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#468 Postby N2FSU » Thu May 26, 2022 3:13 am

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#469 Postby aspen » Thu May 26, 2022 5:49 am

The GFS has stopped showing an EPac—>GoM crossover, instead trying to develop a weak system around the Bahamas/SEUS coast on the first day or two of June. Another system develops from a CAG afterwards and is dragged out of the Caribbean and into the subtropics.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#470 Postby BobHarlem » Thu May 26, 2022 6:39 am

aspen wrote:The GFS has stopped showing an EPac—>GoM crossover, instead trying to develop a weak system around the Bahamas/SEUS coast on the first day or two of June. Another system develops from a CAG afterwards and is dragged out of the Caribbean and into the subtropics.


The Euro still shows the crossover, however.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#471 Postby SFLcane » Thu May 26, 2022 7:07 am

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#472 Postby Blown Away » Thu May 26, 2022 7:19 am



Smells like a classic June TS into the Big Bend area of Florida...
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#473 Postby SFLcane » Thu May 26, 2022 7:32 am

Blown Away wrote:


Smells like a classic June TS into the Big Bend area of Florida...


Could be much further south even into the Caribbean missing Florida all together. These cross overs are always very tricky.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#474 Postby toad strangler » Thu May 26, 2022 7:35 am

Blown Away wrote:


Smells like a classic June TS into the Big Bend area of Florida...


ya that would be very climoish if verified. These can fling through legit severe lines through most of the peninsula being they are heavily saturated E of the center. Last one I remember was TS Andrea in 2013 that sent a couple spooky THICK lines through much of the central and southern peninsula. She made a June 6th landfall nearly dead center Big Bend. That GFS run would place it there at the same time haha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Andrea_(2013)#/media/File:Andrealoop.gif
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#475 Postby skyline385 » Thu May 26, 2022 7:43 am

toad strangler wrote:
Blown Away wrote:


Smells like a classic June TS into the Big Bend area of Florida...


ya that would be very climoish if verified. These can fling through legit severe lines through most of the peninsula being they are heavily saturated E of the center. Last one I remember was TS Andrea in 2013 that sent a couple spooky THICK lines through much of the central and southern peninsula. She made a June 6th landfall nearly dead center Big Bend. That GFS run would place it there at the same time haha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Andrea_(2013)#/media/File:Andrealoop.gif


So if it verifies then 2013 would be a good analog :wink:
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#476 Postby SFLcane » Thu May 26, 2022 9:42 am

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#477 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu May 26, 2022 10:13 am

Definitely looking like something is going to pop up in the BoC in the coming week from the energy associated with would-be Agatha. Good model support.
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2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#478 Postby skyline385 » Thu May 26, 2022 10:52 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Definitely looking like something is going to pop up in the BoC in the coming week from the energy associated with would-be Agatha. Good model support.

I am not sure about that honestly, EPS members are all over the place shifting every run and even decreased in the last run. Meanwhile, the GFS as usual forms a system off a CAG and doesn't have many members in the BoC at all.

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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#479 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu May 26, 2022 10:59 am

skyline385 wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Definitely looking like something is going to pop up in the BoC in the coming week from the energy associated with would-be Agatha. Good model support.

I am not sure about that honestly, EPS members are all over the place shifting every run and even decreased in the last run. Meanwhile, the GFS as usual forms a system off a CAG and doesn't have many members in the BoC at all.

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EPS being wishy-washy isn't anything new, in all honesty. These crossover scenarios are always complex to forecast.
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Re: 2022 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#480 Postby aspen » Thu May 26, 2022 12:57 pm

12z CMC has two tropical cyclones on June 1st: Alex from the remnants of Agatha in the BoC, and Bonnie north of the Bahamas/east of Florida.
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