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What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?

#1 Postby Category5Kaiju » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:21 pm

I'll start with mine: I find it quite fascinating how the Atlantic had 4 consecutive seasons (2001-2004) that retired an I name

I also find it interesting how all 5 Atlantic seasons (1961 onward) that featured multiple Cat 5 hurricanes had those hurricanes named after the same gender (Esther/Hattie, Emily/Katrina/Rita/Wilma, Dean/Felix, Irma/Maria, and Dorian/Lorenzo)
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#2 Postby Hurricane2021 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:35 pm

to this day I find the most incredible thing (and also terrifying) that the 2017 atlantic hurricane season produced 10 hurricanes in a row from late August to early October (Franklin - Ophelia).

I think it's really cool and interesting too that this season has supported 3 active hurricanes simultaneously, with 2 of them being Category 4 hurricanes at the same time (Irma and Jose)

Definitely, the 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season was and will be my favorite hurricane season for a long time.
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#3 Postby Hurricanehink » Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:35 pm

The strongest hurricane on record to hit Georgia was in 1898, as a category 4. The strongest hurricane to hit New Jersey was likely in 1821, when a powerful hurricane moved up the East Coast, although there is no official intensity estimate for it. The strongest official hurricane landfall in New Jersey was a category 1 in 1903.
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#4 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:42 pm

Marco of 2008 at 11.5 miles wide is just astonishingly small. Very cool.
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#5 Postby FireRat » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:38 pm

The fact that the Atlantic's strongest storm on record was a name that started with 'W'.
Wilma 2005.

What a wild happening eh
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#6 Postby Foxfires » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:08 am

Oh I have a lot of these

I don't know how obscure this is because there's a paper on it, but it hasn't been mentioned a lot. Typhoon Kate of 1970 reached category 4 intensity (pressure at <=938mb, POCI at 1008mb, plus it's a small storm, so category 4 is justified imo) at a latitude of 4.4 degrees north, which I believe makes it the lowest latitude major TC (cat 3+) on record worldwide, as well as the strongest recorded TC within 5 degrees of the equator. (Edit: Typhoon Sarah 1956, based on 700mb height, was computed to have a pressure of 937mb at 4.9N. Although Kate might've dropped below 938mb based on 2 readings at that pressure 6 hours apart, both equatorward of 5N)

Some others (mostly WPAC because I know that best):
-Typhoon Amy dropped 51mb in 15h from the 1st to the 2nd of May, 1971
-Typhoon Kit dropped 44mb in 14h in January of 1972
-2 instances of twin category 5 storms, Ivan-Joan and Ron-Susan, happened within 3 months of each other
-There are 4 years on record with 3 storms confirmed to have dropped below 900mb, those years being: 1957, 1971, 1979, and 1983 (all sub-900mb storms are WPAC)
-Typhoon Rita 1978 sustained a pressure of 900mb or lower for around 3.5 days
-If I'm not mistaken the disturbance that eventually developed into Cyclone Agni briefly crossed the equator
-Apparently Typhoon Georgia had a 500mb eye temperature of 14.5 degrees Celsius. I don't know what the usual temperature is for the 500mb level but the JTWC's ATCR notes that this is extremely warm.

There's like, a lot more, but I don't want to make this post too long lol.
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#7 Postby Nuno » Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:57 am

Foxfires wrote:Oh I have a lot of these

I don't know how obscure this is because there's a paper on it, but it hasn't been mentioned a lot. Typhoon Kate of 1970 reached category 4 intensity (pressure at <=938mb, POCI at 1008mb, plus it's a small storm, so category 4 is justified imo) at a latitude of 4.4 degrees north, which I believe makes it the lowest latitude major TC (cat 3+) on record worldwide, as well as the strongest recorded TC within 5 degrees of the equator.

Some others (mostly WPAC because I know that best):
-Typhoon Amy dropped 51mb in 15h from the 1st to the 2nd of May, 1971
-Typhoon Kit dropped 44mb in 14h in January of 1972
-2 instances of twin category 5 storms, Ivan-Joan and Ron-Susan, happened within 3 months of each other
-There are 4 years on record with 3 storms confirmed to have dropped below 900mb, those years being: 1957, 1971, 1979, and 1983 (all sub-900mb storms are WPAC)
-Typhoon Rita 1978 sustained a pressure of 900mb or lower for around 3.5 days
-If I'm not mistaken the disturbance that eventually developed into Cyclone Agni briefly crossed the equator
-Apparently Typhoon Georgia had a 500mb eye temperature of 14.5 degrees Celsius. I don't know what the usual temperature is for the 500mb level but the JTWC's ATCR notes that this is extremely warm.

There's like, a lot more, but I don't want to make this post too long lol.


These are curious really, can you post more? :D
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#8 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:37 am

Tropical Storm Bill helped make 2015 the 2nd wettest year ever recorded in Oklahoma.
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#9 Postby toad strangler » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:10 pm

Going on 17 years since the last FL East Coast hurricane landfall.
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#10 Postby Foxfires » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:29 am

Nuno wrote:These are curious really, can you post more? :D


Oh sure
Again, mostly WPAC, but I suppose it's a contrast to all the Atlantic-based posts here.

-The name "Rita" is the only name that has been used for 2 tropical cyclones in separate basins that dropped below 900mb (1978 & 2005)
-Typhoon Maria 2018 was the first TC in the northern hemisphere to reach category 5 intensity since Hurricane Maria 2017
-1971 WPAC had 7 TCs undergo rapid deepening (42mb/24h)
-Typhoon June 1975 reached a peak intensity of <=876mb (dropsonde measured 876mb but was swept into the eyewall) on the 19th of November (if only it was a June storm)
-^ June was the first recorded case of triple eyewalls. They haven't even figured out double eyewalls at the time.
-1974 WPAC had 32 named storms and yet none of them reached category 5 intensity (I'd usually peg it up to being an old season but the strongest was 930mb). Extreme quantity over quality season (the season right before and the one right after it were very quality over quantity though, interestingly).
-The first 2 storms named Lupit (meaning "cruelty" or "viciousness") were category 5s. Fitting name to say the least.
-If the WPAC didn't exist the world ACE record for a single season would be 318 units (compared to the actual record of 570 units)
-Don't you love when the world's most intense tropical cyclone on record gets dethroned within 4 years? (June '75 -> Tip '79)
-The most intense tropical cyclones (globally) in any single month are <=900mb
-Typhoon Rita 1972 sustained typhoon intensity for 18.25 days
-Typhoon Paka of December 1997 somehow produced more ACE than Hurricane Irma 2017 (per JTWC)
-The record for November intensification is 95mb/24h
-Typhoon Alice reached 928mb in January of 1979

I can't tell which facts people find interesting so I just compiled a bunch of random ones.
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#11 Postby Nuno » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:28 am

toad strangler wrote:Going on 17 years since the last FL East Coast hurricane landfall.


And within that time, there was an 11 year period where no hurricanes made landfall in Florida period. Still a remarkable anomaly.
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#12 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:50 am

I feel Hurricane Pali (2016) isn't talked about much given it's highly anomalous formation and track (in red). Goes to show what a Super Niño-induced WWB can do.
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#13 Postby toad strangler » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:20 am

DorkyMcDorkface wrote:I feel Hurricane Pali (2016) isn't talked about much given it's highly anomalous formation and track (in red). Goes to show what a Super Niño-induced WWB can do.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Pali_2016_NASA_track.png


Wow never realized how dead the Central Pacific is
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#14 Postby Teban54 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:30 am

DorkyMcDorkface wrote:I feel Hurricane Pali (2016) isn't talked about much given it's highly anomalous formation and track (in red). Goes to show what a Super Niño-induced WWB can do.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Pali_2016_NASA_track.png

And in January some more!
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#15 Postby Teban54 » Sun May 01, 2022 1:59 pm

Some random facts behind a few historical names that I find interesting:

- Alice: The name is probably the most well-known for the 1954-55 hurricane, and the only Atlantic hurricane to exist in the span of two years (Zeta 2005 was only a tropical storm). The December Alice was given the A name because operationally it was thought to have formed in January 1955, but post-season analysis found it formed in December 1954. But the June 1954 Alice, with a Cat 2 landfall near the US-Mexico border, is also nothing to sneeze at!

- Carol: The 1954 Carol was among the first retired names in the Atlantic, as the public found it confusing when Carol 1954 approached the same area as Carol 1953. But at that time, names were supposed to be retired for 10 years only, so Carol entered the naming list again in 1965 to replace Carla 1961. Carol was supposed to be on the 1969 list too, but in spring 1969 they decided to retire all names permanently. Camille was used instead, named after John Hope's daughter. And we all know what happened.

- Edna: Also among the same batch of retired names after 1954 like Carol (it was a brutal year for the Northeast). But it appeared on the naming list again in 1972, even after the 1969 decision to keep names retired permanently. Fortunately, the 1972 season only had 4 named storms, so Edna wasn't even used!
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#16 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sun May 01, 2022 2:07 pm

Teban54 wrote:Some random facts behind a few historical names that I find interesting:

- Alice: The name is probably the most well-known for the 1954-55 hurricane, and the only Atlantic hurricane to exist in the span of two years (Zeta 2005 was only a tropical storm). The December Alice was given the A name because operationally it was thought to have formed in January 1955, but post-season analysis found it formed in December 1954. But the June 1954 Alice, with a Cat 2 landfall near the US-Mexico border, is also nothing to sneeze at!

- Carol: The 1954 Carol was among the first retired names in the Atlantic, as the public found it confusing when Carol 1954 approached the same area as Carol 1953. But at that time, names were supposed to be retired for 10 years only, so Carol entered the naming list again in 1965 to replace Carla 1961. Carol was supposed to be on the 1969 list too, but in spring 1969 they decided to retire all names permanently. Camille was used instead, named after John Hope's daughter. And we all know what happened.

- Edna: Also among the same batch of retired names after 1954 like Carol (it was a brutal year for the Northeast). But it appeared on the naming list again in 1972, even after the 1969 decision to keep names retired permanently. Fortunately, the 1972 season only had 4 named storms, so Edna wasn't even used!


I wonder how powerful his daughter must feel :D
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#17 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue May 10, 2022 7:12 pm

A TS strength or greater tropical cyclone has never crossed the Florida peninsula and then made it to Texas.
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#18 Postby Iceresistance » Wed May 11, 2022 8:19 am

1900hurricane wrote:A TS strength or greater tropical cyclone has never crossed the Florida peninsula and then made it to Texas.

Rita 2005 almost changed that.
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#19 Postby ncforecaster89 » Fri May 13, 2022 1:24 am

1886 and 1909 are the only known seasons whereby at least one hurricane struck the U.S. mainland during the successive months of June, July, August, September, and October. Even more astonishing, all 12 combined hurricane strikes (during these two seasons) occurred on the Gulf Coast!

1886 stands out for three (!) presumed Cat 2 June hurricane landfalls on the northern Gulf Coast…any of which could’ve conceivably been a MH. That amazing feat was followed by an additional four hurricane strikes that included 2 majors…one of which might’ve actually been a Cat 5, at Indianola, TX.

Additional note: 1985 is only season on record that produced a U.S. mainland landfall during the successive months of July through November. Consequently, it joins the two aforementioned seasons as the only ones known to do so in 5 consecutive months!
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#20 Postby FireRat » Sun May 15, 2022 3:09 am

ncforecaster89 wrote:1886 and 1909 are the only known seasons whereby at least one hurricane struck the U.S. mainland during the successive months of June, July, August, September, and October. Even more astonishing, all 12 combined hurricane strikes (during these two seasons) occurred on the Gulf Coast!

1886 stands out for three (!) presumed Cat 2 June hurricane landfalls on the northern Gulf Coast…any of which could’ve conceivably been a MH. That amazing feat was followed by an additional four hurricane strikes that included 2 majors…one of which might’ve actually been a Cat 5, at Indianola, TX.

Additional note: 1985 is only season on record that produced a U.S. mainland landfall during the successive months of July through November. Consequently, it joins the two aforementioned seasons as the only ones known to do so in 5 consecutive months!


1886 has to be one of the most bizarre seasons, and a highly destructive one too, imagine if it happened now. 3 June hurricane landfalls is straight up unbelievable.
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