Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (Is Invest 98L)

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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#361 Postby Sambucol » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:17 am

skyline385 wrote:CMC has started adjusting towards the GFS/Euro

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220920/f42f5b7dfe47da21269538e52068e2b7.jpg
Is that more of a west track into the GOM?

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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#362 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:21 am

Weaker Euro this run 120 hrs in
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#363 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:22 am

Sambucol wrote:
skyline385 wrote:CMC has started adjusting towards the GFS/Euro

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220920/f42f5b7dfe47da21269538e52068e2b7.jpg
Is that more of a west track into the GOM?

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Yea CMC started off much more westwards that the other models
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#364 Postby AtlanticWind » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:25 am

skyline385 wrote:Weaker Euro this run 120 hrs in

Euro seems to under do these systems until they are formed
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#365 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:30 am

Looks like its going to be a sloppy run from the Euro, much more SW than previous runs and just a broad circulations so far.

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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#366 Postby Keldeo1997 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:43 am

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Here we go. Going to shoot the channel
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#367 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:49 am

Right through the channel but shear in the Gulf may limit its intensification

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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#368 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:53 am

Going to be very close for peninsular florida, could recurve towards Florida but if that trough moves out the ridge may build back again

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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#369 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:00 am

Euro 0Z ends weaker and slightly slower than 12Z

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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#370 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:01 am

skyline385 wrote:
Sambucol wrote:
skyline385 wrote:CMC has started adjusting towards the GFS/Euro

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220920/f42f5b7dfe47da21269538e52068e2b7.jpg
Is that more of a west track into the GOM?

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Yea CMC started off much more westwards that the other models



Which is quite strange (and a trend this season in general, did the same with Fiona as well) as I'm used to it being the eastern outlier.
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Re: RE: Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#371 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:10 am

Hammy wrote:
skyline385 wrote:
Sambucol wrote:


Yea CMC started off much more westwards that the other models



Which is quite strange (and a trend this season in general, did the same with Fiona as well) as I'm used to it being the eastern outlier.

Yea it's been a strange season so far, even the GFS has been frequently modeling stronger ridges than the Euro (today's 0Z run at 240 hours is another such instance) which is completely the opposite of how they typically behave.
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#372 Postby Hurricane Mike » Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:15 am

It appears that once Fiona pushes out, this system would have a nice outflow jet on the eastern side when it's south of Cuba and starts strengthening like mad.
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#373 Postby Teban54 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:56 am

Convection going strong as it approaches DMAX:
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#374 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:08 am

Teban54 wrote:Convection going strong as it approaches DMAX:
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Yea even seeing some pink cloud tops, probably going to cause a very bullish 12Z suite if it persists…


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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#375 Postby Nimbus » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:28 am

Very clear that the model runs are timing the start of recurve based on system strength.
Probably not going to stay weak all the way to the Yucatan so the Tex/Mex solutions aren't going to verify.
Barbados is the bowling rule of 31 marker I usually use.
If we have a sharpening wave just south of Barbados it could close off in time to shoot the Yucatan channel.
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#376 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:33 am

Very tricky setup as to what happens once it makes into the western Caribbean and feels the tug north as the jet streams dips.

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Re: RE: Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#377 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:44 am

skyline385 wrote:
Hammy wrote:
skyline385 wrote:
Yea CMC started off much more westwards that the other models



Which is quite strange (and a trend this season in general, did the same with Fiona as well) as I'm used to it being the eastern outlier.

Yea it's been a strange season so far, even the GFS has been frequently modeling stronger ridges than the Euro (today's 0Z run at 240 hours is another such instance) which is completely the opposite of how they typically behave.


I've remembered that the models have been underestimating the strength of the ridges and troughs in the past several years. And with a stronger ridge from the GFS compared to the Euro, I'm assuming that the GFS does not want that mistake this time around.
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#378 Postby Keldeo1997 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:59 am

06z GFS is faster yet again. It seems the GFS has been treading towards faster forward speed.

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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#379 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:02 am

Keldeo1997 wrote:06z GFS is faster than 00Z. It seems the GFS has been treading towards faster forward speed.


Going to end up going over South America/not developing at all if that trend keeps up
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Re: Tropical wave east of the Windward Islands (10/40)

#380 Postby chris_fit » Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:21 am

Most NE of the last 4 runs so far

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