2022 Tropical Cyclone Retirements: Fiona / Ian retired--New names for 2028 list=Farrah / Idris

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2022 Tropical Cyclone Retirements: Fiona / Ian retired--New names for 2028 list=Farrah / Idris

#1 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:08 pm

What will 2022 hold in Name Retirements in Tropical Cyclones?
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Re: 2022 Tropical Cyclone Retirements

#2 Postby Teban54 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:35 pm

I thought me posting this thread on the bell ringing day last year (edit: 2021) was early... Now we have this while still in 2021 lol.
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#3 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:23 pm

If this section is intended for just the Atlantic basin, then we're likely in for about an 8-month wait to find out. If in general, it'll likely be some very strong South Pacific or WPAC storm.
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#4 Postby Teban54 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:22 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:If this section is intended for just the Atlantic basin, then we're likely in for about an 8-month wait to find out. If in general, it'll likely be some very strong South Pacific or WPAC storm.

These threads are generally for global cyclone retirements, as WPAC/EPAC retirements have frequently been discussed here. So aside from the southern hemisphere, it might also get activity if we end up with an early WPAC monster (like Surigae) that actually makes landfall.
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#5 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:28 pm

With this damage and what lies ahead, this may be the last storm named Fiona. Even a relatively slow start can't stop destructive storms.
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#6 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:59 pm

Yup, was just thinking about mentioning that if everything goes as wrong as they can, Fiona may be done after this season.

Top 4 personal favorite storm names if Fiona gets replaced: Freya, Flavia, Fern, Fatima
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#7 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:52 pm

I'm not sure what the damage estimates are, but I suspect it will be over $10 billion, maybe $20 billion. That would get Fiona retired.
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#8 Postby AJC3 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:35 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:With this damage and what lies ahead, this may be the last storm named Fiona. Even a relatively slow start can't stop destructive storms.


Agreed. The flooding impacts for PR alone merit retirement.
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#9 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:48 pm

Not exactly sure if this will age like wine or milk, but I'm starting to think we may need a new H female name for List 2 if 98L follows some of the model guidance. Thank goodness this won't be a letter later, or else we'll be dealing with a headache yet again in terms of names lol.

The good thing is there's a whole bunch of female H names that can be used. Heather? Holly? Heidi? Hailey? Mmm, lots of them :P
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#10 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:19 am

Category5Kaiju wrote:Not exactly sure if this will age like wine or milk, but I'm starting to think we may need a new H female name for List 2 if 98L follows some of the model guidance. Thank goodness this won't be a letter later, or else we'll be dealing with a headache yet again in terms of names lol.

The good thing is there's a whole bunch of female H names that can be used. Heather? Holly? Heidi? Hailey? Mmm, lots of them :P


Very true, it looks like unless the eastern wave rushes out that the I curse will not go this year. But yeah, Heather sounds like a good pick. As far as replacing Fiona, my picks are Faith, Filomena or Frieda.
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#11 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:31 pm

Names NOT available for replacement names:

Female F names - Fay, Felicia, Fernanda, Fifi, Flor, Flora, Florence, Flossie, Fran, Frances, Francine
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#12 Postby Cleveland Kent Evans » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:21 pm

If Fiona gets retired I think a good replacement would be Fabiola, which is the female "F" name that has most recently been popular in Puerto Rico.
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#13 Postby NorthieStangl » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:55 am

AJC3 wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:With this damage and what lies ahead, this may be the last storm named Fiona. Even a relatively slow start can't stop destructive storms.


Agreed. The flooding impacts for PR alone merit retirement.


I think it will be CANADA that will request Fiona's retirement. The way it looks, I won't be surprised if Fiona will end up being Canada's first billion-dollars storm.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#14 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:47 pm

Question: does the WMO have some sort of vendetta against 4 syllable names? I've noticed that at least on the standard EPAC and Atlantic lists, there seem to be only 3 names that are 4 syllables long: Olivia, Isaias, and Veronica.
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#15 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:51 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:Question: does the WMO have some sort of vendetta against 4 syllable names? I've noticed that at least on the standard EPAC and Atlantic lists, there seem to be only 3 names that are 4 syllables long: Olivia, Isaias, and Veronica.


I don't think so, I was thinking that they are trying to put out names that are easy to say and pronounce.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#16 Postby Cleveland Kent Evans » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:30 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:Question: does the WMO have some sort of vendetta against 4 syllable names? I've noticed that at least on the standard EPAC and Atlantic lists, there seem to be only 3 names that are 4 syllables long: Olivia, Isaias, and Veronica.


I think calling this a "vendetta" is hyperbole, but it makes perfect sense that names chosen for the tropical storm lists should be short. The whole purpose of giving them names is to give them a quick recognizable designation that will differentiate them from other storms active at the same time. Short names are better for quick communication in the media.
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#17 Postby AnnularCane » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:51 pm

Cleveland Kent Evans wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:Question: does the WMO have some sort of vendetta against 4 syllable names? I've noticed that at least on the standard EPAC and Atlantic lists, there seem to be only 3 names that are 4 syllables long: Olivia, Isaias, and Veronica.


I think calling this a "vendetta" is hyperbole, but it makes perfect sense that names chosen for the tropical storm lists should be short. The whole purpose of giving them names is to give them a quick recognizable designation that will differentiate them from other storms active at the same time. Short names are better for quick communication in the media.



Didn't stop them from coming up with Isaias. :P Of course I guess they can't exactly afford to be too picky when it comes to the I names.
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#18 Postby NorthieStangl » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:00 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:Not exactly sure if this will age like wine or milk, but I'm starting to think we may need a new H female name for List 2 if 98L follows some of the model guidance. Thank goodness this won't be a letter later, or else we'll be dealing with a headache yet again in terms of names lol.

The good thing is there's a whole bunch of female H names that can be used. Heather? Holly? Heidi? Hailey? Mmm, lots of them :P


Oops, spoke too soon. Now we need to figure out yet another male I name. Although there's a chance that it will fizzle out and underperform our expectations.
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#19 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:05 pm

NorthieStangl wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:Not exactly sure if this will age like wine or milk, but I'm starting to think we may need a new H female name for List 2 if 98L follows some of the model guidance. Thank goodness this won't be a letter later, or else we'll be dealing with a headache yet again in terms of names lol.

The good thing is there's a whole bunch of female H names that can be used. Heather? Holly? Heidi? Hailey? Mmm, lots of them :P


Oops, spoke too soon. Now we need to figure out yet another male I name. Although there's a chance that it will fizzle out and underperform our expectations.


I think the lesson I learned is especially if it's peak season and there are multiple AOIs, you should never automatically assume that one AOI will be named "so and so." Clearly the Hermine/Ian debacle showed how extremely close names can be assigned and why pre-naming systems is a bad idea :lol:
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Re: 2022 Cyclones Retirement

#20 Postby Torino » Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:17 am

Fiona - Felicity, Frida, Farrah, Flavia, Faith
Ian - Irving, Ira, Idris, Ivor, Ives
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