2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top) Dora / Otis retired

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Will Any Storm Be Retired After the 2023 Season?

Poll ended at Thu Nov 30, 2023 8:40 pm

Yes
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#81 Postby Xyls » Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:02 pm

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Xyls wrote: ??? Since when are hurricane names retired due to "academic reasons", even Patricia (2015) who would be the one example of where this was cited still did a fair amount of damage in Mexico. Lee is neither that unique nor that damaging. I don't think we Canadians will be requesting retirement. I could see Idalia go either way as it is a very borderline case imo.


Fair point -- personally, though, I think they should at least take a look at retiring Lee 2023 primarily to avoid confusion in the future with a possible Lee 2029, where we could have people searching up "Hurricane Lee" and seeing "Massive Category 5 Lee sets near-record for rapid intensification, heading towards Caribbean" when in reality Lee 2029 could end up peaking at 75mph and posing no threat to land. Yeah, Lee's impacts by themselves weren't severe enough to warrant retirement, but I feel like there's so many extra male "L" names available that the name Lee could be very easily replaced without causing any major problems.


Honestly, if Lee is going to get retired, than it should get retired over the 2011 version of storm which killed 18 people and did 2.8 billion dollars in damage as it caused catastrophic flooding across the northeast. But if we are going to start retiring past storms than I can think of several others that should go before it... (Alberto 1994, Gordon 1994, Alex 2010, Karl 2010) But this is opening a can of worms of retroactively retiring a bunch of names and this would become a mess so I doubt this is going to happen.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#82 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:11 pm

Zero reason Lee should be retired in my opinion.

If it were up to me I wouldn't retire Idalia either, although it's a borderline case. Every storm that hits land is going to be destructive, that's just how it is. We can't retire every storm that hits land. I know Idalia was devastating for a few areas but I don't really think it reaches the level for retirement imo
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#83 Postby HurricaneRyan » Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:52 pm

Hilary low-key has more of a chance than Lee.

All the storms with a shot at retirement this year though weren't as destructive as predicted
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#84 Postby HurricaneRyan » Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:20 am

Storm Daniel is actually the most deserving of retirement as it killed more people than Hilary, Idalia and Lee combined
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#85 Postby DioBrando » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:00 pm

Immortalize this:

No names will be retired.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#86 Postby HurricaneRyan » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:28 pm

Lidia might make a run for retirement now!
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#87 Postby Torino » Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:40 pm

I don't think we will see Otis in 2029.
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#88 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:26 pm

Looks like we can say goodbye to Otis.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#89 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:43 pm

Yeah, Otis looks like it unfortunately has the potential to be the EPAC's first serious retirement candidate since Patricia. There aren't that many common male O names (best I can think of are Oliver, Oswald, and Orville).
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#90 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:40 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:Yeah, Otis looks like it unfortunately has the potential to be the EPAC's first serious retirement candidate since Patricia. There aren't that many common male O names (best I can think of are Oliver, Oswald, and Orville).


It will likely be the strongest retirement case of the entire season at this point, either in the EPAC or Atlantic.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#91 Postby HurricaneRyan » Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:51 pm

1. Otis
2. Idalia
3. Hilary
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#92 Postby HurricaneRyan » Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:52 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:Yeah, Otis looks like it unfortunately has the potential to be the EPAC's first serious retirement candidate since Patricia. There aren't that many common male O names (best I can think of are Oliver, Oswald, and Orville).


Also Orson.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#93 Postby Teban54 » Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:05 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:1. Otis
2. Idalia
3. Hilary

How bad was Lidia? It might deserve a spot on this list.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#94 Postby aspen » Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:44 am

CrazyC83 wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:Yeah, Otis looks like it unfortunately has the potential to be the EPAC's first serious retirement candidate since Patricia. There aren't that many common male O names (best I can think of are Oliver, Oswald, and Orville).


It will likely be the strongest retirement case of the entire season at this point, either in the EPAC or Atlantic.

It might be the only retirement in the entire Western Hemisphere this year. Idalia didn’t seem to be that bad, thankfully. Same goes for Hilary. Not sure about Lidia, though; I haven’t seen any damage estimates for it yet. Since Otis made landfall over a heavily populated city at peak strength, we can pretty easily assume it will be ugly and worthy of retirement.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#95 Postby Torino » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:51 am

HurricaneRyan wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:Yeah, Otis looks like it unfortunately has the potential to be the EPAC's first serious retirement candidate since Patricia. There aren't that many common male O names (best I can think of are Oliver, Oswald, and Orville).


Also Orson.


Orlando, Oran, Osvaldo, Odair.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#96 Postby Cleveland Kent Evans » Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:25 am

One would think that if Otis is replaced that it would be Mexico that would request it, and therefore the replacement is likely to be an "O" male name familiar to people in Mexico.

My Mexican given name dictionary includes Oberon, Oberto, Ocotlan, Oderico, Odilon, Olegario, Olimpio, Olindo, Olvido, Onesimo, Onofre, Optato, Orencio, Oriol, Orion, Orlando, Oroncio, Orso, Osberto, Osmundo, Oso, Osvaldo, Osvino, Otelo, and Oton as among possible candidates. Actually one of the most obvious possibilities would be Octavio if Octave wasn't already on another Eastern Pacific list -- however, having names close to one another on lists in the same basin has happened before, with for example Paula and Paulette both now being on Atlantic lists, and Norma on this year's Eastern Pacific list will be followed in 2024 by Norman in the Eastern Pacific.
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#97 Postby Xyls » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:09 pm

I think Otis will be leaving us.

Idalia I still think is borderline but the damages are coming in even lower than originally thought... so my guess is Idalia will be staying as well at this point...
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#98 Postby Astromanía » Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:09 pm

Cleveland Kent Evans wrote:One would think that if Otis is replaced that it would be Mexico that would request it, and therefore the replacement is likely to be an "O" male name familiar to people in Mexico.

My Mexican given name dictionary includes Oberon, Oberto, Ocotlan, Oderico, Odilon, Olegario, Olimpio, Olindo, Olvido, Onesimo, Onofre, Optato, Orencio, Oriol, Orion, Orlando, Oroncio, Orso, Osberto, Osmundo, Oso, Osvaldo, Osvino, Otelo, and Oton as among possible candidates. Actually one of the most obvious possibilities would be Octavio if Octave wasn't already on another Eastern Pacific list -- however, having names close to one another on lists in the same basin has happened before, with for example Paula and Paulette both now being on Atlantic lists, and Norma on this year's Eastern Pacific list will be followed in 2024 by Norman in the Eastern Pacific.


Didn't know "Oso" was a male name in my country, it means bear in english xD
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#99 Postby galaxy401 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:11 pm

Otis should be retired without a doubt.

No other name should be retired. (By that I specifically mean the Atlantic and EPAC)
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Re: 2023 Cyclone Retirement (Poll Included at Top)

#100 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:20 pm

I agree that Otis is gone.

I've been leaning against retiring Idalia now, it's the closest thing to a Bret that we've had in recent years. It could be the first time since 2014 that nothing gets retired from the Atlantic.
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