Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (Is Invest 92L)

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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (0/40)

#41 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:12 am

GCANE wrote:06Z GFS spins up a warm core later today.
Track is recurve and OTS

https://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/gf ... 06/53.html


Euro also spins up warm core later today.
Recurve and OTS but further west than GFS

https://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/ec ... 00/71.html
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (0/40)

#42 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:21 am

Doesn't look like the effects of El Nino in the MDR have kicked in yet.
GFS forecasting this to be under a broad anti-cyclone while in the MDR.
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (0/40)

#43 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:24 am

Nothing in the GFS forecast showing any significant steering to cause a recurve.
Doubting the recurve idea.
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (0/40)

#44 Postby NotSparta » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:40 am

GCANE wrote:Nothing in the GFS forecast showing any significant steering to cause a recurve.
Doubting the recurve idea.


The widespread troughing throughout the Atlantic doesn't look like "nothing" to me

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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#45 Postby weeniepatrol » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:52 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 AM EDT Fri Jun 16 2023


For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. Eastern Tropical Atlantic:
A tropical wave located between the west coast of Africa and the
Cabo Verde Islands is producing disorganized showers and
thunderstorms. Environmental conditions appear to be conducive for
gradual development, and a tropical depression could form during the
early to middle portions of next week while the system moves
westward at 15 to 20 mph across the eastern and central tropical
Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...50 percent.
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#46 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:09 am

weeniepatrol wrote:
Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 AM EDT Fri Jun 16 2023


For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. Eastern Tropical Atlantic:
A tropical wave located between the west coast of Africa and the
Cabo Verde Islands is producing disorganized showers and
thunderstorms. Environmental conditions appear to be conducive for
gradual development, and a tropical depression could form during the
early to middle portions of next week while the system moves
westward at 15 to 20 mph across the eastern and central tropical
Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...50 percent.



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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#47 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:16 am

Would this be considered a Cape Verde system in June?
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#48 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:22 am

Hey, so it looks like we have a fish storm that just *might* become a major June anomaly and give the Atlantic a lot of freebie ACE points. During an El Nino year!
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#49 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:49 am

NotSparta wrote:
GCANE wrote:Nothing in the GFS forecast showing any significant steering to cause a recurve.
Doubting the recurve idea.


The widespread troughing throughout the Atlantic doesn't look like "nothing" to me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/661421636003823632/1119229835135438989/gfs_atl_500anom_2023061606_f132.png


Agreed. Deep trof to its north prior to reaching the Caribbean signals a turn to the north. Little or no ridge to keep it moving west.
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#50 Postby abajan » Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:56 am

Lots of interest in this wave for sure. Weathernerds satellite servers down.
Should be an Invest anytime now.

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EDIT: The servers are back up. Yay!
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#51 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:56 am

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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#52 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:00 am

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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#53 Postby abajan » Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:04 am


Yep, that's a definite red flag for development.
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#54 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:05 am

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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#55 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:41 am

GCANE wrote:Doesn't look like the effects of El Nino in the MDR have kicked in yet.
GFS forecasting this to be under a broad anti-cyclone while in the MDR.


They honestly might not this year, with SSTs at record levels across the entire basin, including the MDR.
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#56 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:46 am

Nice cheat sheet of the rule-of-thumb we see year after year

 https://twitter.com/CraigSetzer/status/1669697382940831744


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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#57 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:48 am

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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#58 Postby toad strangler » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:57 am

GCANE wrote:Nice cheat sheet of the rule-of-thumb we see year after year

https://twitter.com/CraigSetzer/status/1669697382940831744


yep, with historic warm temps out there all we can do is hope MDR storms spin up early and fish like champs into the open N Atlantic.
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#59 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:02 am

Model and ensemble members that develop it into a TS over the next 2-3 days turn it north, staying east of the Caribbean. I think that's the most likely solution. Look for the NHC to bump up chances of development within 48 hrs next update. Maybe 30/60 or 30/70. Personally, I'd say 40/90.
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Re:Tropical wave in the Eastern Atlantic (10/50)

#60 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:14 am

wxman57 wrote:Model and ensemble members that develop it into a TS over the next 2-3 days turn it north, staying east of the Caribbean. I think that's the most likely solution. Look for the NHC to bump up chances of development within 48 hrs next update. Maybe 30/60 or 30/70. Personally, I'd say 40/90.


And invest 92L comming very soon.
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