Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean (Is Invest 97L)

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#101 Postby Weathertracker96 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:19 pm



Seems like some of the ensembles have it surviving and not burying it to deep in CA. As someone mentioned earlier, once we get a LLC, that hopefully will help paint a clearer picture of this possible storm.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#102 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:58 pm

12z Euro moves the vorticity to EPAC and begins to develop there.

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#103 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:08 pm

Having it slid on over to the Pacific and develop there would be better for everyone, if the high pressure is that strong, it would continue west and not even bother Mexico, they for sure do not need it.
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#106 Postby Blown Away » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:20 pm

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#107 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:35 pm

cycloneye wrote:12z Euro moves the vorticity to EPAC and begins to develop there.

https://i.imgur.com/hJQ97Fg.gif


Looks like a reasonable solution. The GFS has been really bad this year on genesis and this may be yet another case. It still can generate plenty of posts and discussion on the “what ifs” even though its long-range forecast rarely if ever verify.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#108 Postby SFLcane » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:35 pm

gatorcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:12z Euro moves the vorticity to EPAC and begins to develop there.

https://i.imgur.com/hJQ97Fg.gif


Looks like a reasonable solution. The GFS has been really bad this year on genesis and this may be yet another case. It still can generate some discussion on “what ifs” even though its long-range forecast rarely if ever verify.


And so has the Euro... :lol:

That's we do here on S2K is discuss and discuss some more all the possibilites. :wink:
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#109 Postby SFLcane » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:53 pm

Convection increasing in the area during a time that this is typically a minimum diurnally.

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#110 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:59 pm

SFLcane wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:12z Euro moves the vorticity to EPAC and begins to develop there.

https://i.imgur.com/hJQ97Fg.gif


Looks like a reasonable solution. The GFS has been really bad this year on genesis and this may be yet another case. It still can generate some discussion on “what ifs” even though its long-range forecast rarely if ever verify.


And so has the Euro...

That's we do here on S2K is discuss and discuss some more all the possibilites. :wink:
It appears whatever direction it travels, there will be impressive development for november.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#111 Postby DunedinDave » Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:00 pm

The GFS is either gonna come out of this either looking like a million bucks or with all kinds of egg on their face. They continue to be on an island developing this into something meaningful…hell they have it almost as a cat 5!
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#112 Postby SFLcane » Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:02 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
Looks like a reasonable solution. The GFS has been really bad this year on genesis and this may be yet another case. It still can generate some discussion on “what ifs” even though its long-range forecast rarely if ever verify.


And so has the Euro...

That's we do here on S2K is discuss and discuss some more all the possibilites. :wink:
It appears whatever direction it travels, there will be impressive development for november.


Surely! Considering shear should be blasting through the caribbean in a strong enso. Still rememebr those twitter post back in july some claiming it would be another 2013. Ooops!

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#113 Postby ronjon » Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:01 pm

Hope we get an INVEST soon as I'd like to see what the tropical models do with the disturbance.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#114 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:05 pm

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#115 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:02 pm

cycloneye wrote:Image
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#116 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:41 pm



i figured after that crazy 12z GFS, i would wait until the wacky Happy Hour GFS finished before saying anything
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#117 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:54 pm

CronkPSU wrote:


i figured after that crazy 12z GFS, i would wait until the wacky Happy Hour GFS finished before saying anything


The 18z GFS has the same place as the 12z GFS, but MUCH weaker, for now...
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#118 Postby Teban54 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:02 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:


i figured after that crazy 12z GFS, i would wait until the wacky Happy Hour GFS finished before saying anything


The 18z GFS has the same place as the 12z GFS, but MUCH weaker, for now...

18z's Nicaragua landfall is actually stronger than 12z (987 mb vs 997). In fact, for 12z 11/4, it has the same intensity as the (still bonkers) 06z GFS run, but the difference is in speed: 18z landfalls 6 hours from there, while 06z has 12-18 hours.

The crazy thing about 12z was that it lets the system hang around in NW Caribbean after reemerging to water where it bombs out, which isn't the case for 18z.

Regardless, the scenario on 18z still has potential to be a flooding disaster. FWIW, even though Hurricane Eta made landfall in Nicaragua, it "only" had 2 casualties and $178 million in monetary damage there. The impacts on Honduras (74 deaths, $5 billion) and Guatemala (53 deaths, $386 million) were much more severe, largely due to flooding.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#119 Postby WiscoWx02 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:09 pm

Thinking nothing really comes out of this. Even the GFS is backing off. Maybe a weak short lived tropical depression but thinking that’s about it. Will have to wait till next year at this point for anything of significant caliber.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#120 Postby Teban54 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:11 pm

Looks like it's taking shape.
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