Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean (Is Invest 97L)

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#61 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:37 pm

Insane scenario but it would require literally extremely favorable conditions without any sort of interference from dry air intrusion or shear at lower/mid/upper levels.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#62 Postby Teban54 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:42 pm

0z GFS a bit further south, so it crashes into Central America and doesn't seem to get strong on the recurve... So far (out to 252 hrs).
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#63 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:00 am

For the record, here is the 2 AM TWO:

An area of disturbed weather has formed over the eastern Caribbean
Sea. This system is expected to move westward during the next
several days, and environmental conditions appear conducive for
gradual development. A tropical depression could form late this
week when the system reaches the central or southwestern Caribbean
Sea.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...40 percent.


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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#64 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:34 am

06z GFS same as 00z to Central America.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#65 Postby mantis83 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:48 am

cycloneye wrote:06z GFS same as 00z to Central America.

trending strongly towards the euro...good news for florida 8-)
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#66 Postby SFLcane » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:20 am

Over night trends shields up for the Conus but could be some flooding issues for Central America hopefully nothing to strong.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#67 Postby SFLcane » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:21 am

mantis83 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:06z GFS same as 00z to Central America.

trending strongly towards the euro...good news for florida 8-)


There was never any bad news for anyone let alone Florida. :roll:
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#68 Postby Weathertracker96 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:32 am

mantis83 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:06z GFS same as 00z to Central America.

trending strongly towards the euro...good news for florida 8-)


The GEFS ensembles on tropical tidbits still look a little more north of operational so I wouldn’t call it a strong trend. I think the best thing to do is to see if/where development occurs before we starting to rule out places.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#69 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:54 am

A trough of low pressure over the eastern Caribbean Sea is
associated with disorganized showers and thunderstorms. This system
is expected to move westward during the next several days, and
environmental conditions appear conducive for gradual development.
A tropical depression could form late this week when the system
reaches the central or southwestern Caribbean Sea.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...50 percent.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#70 Postby kevin » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:55 am

Some of the strongest members curve away earlier and seem to be Cuba-bound.

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#71 Postby aspen » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:03 am

So far the GFS remains the only model showing a compact circulation forming. All the rest have a broad disturbance that fails to tighten up.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#72 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:18 am

 https://twitter.com/yconsor/status/1718956949931241736




 https://twitter.com/yconsor/status/1718958468462264565




One thing to note is that the Caribbean Sea is nearly 1.5c above normal, as long as this AOI remains in the Caribbean it'll have at least 30c ssts to work with. I think due to this there's a bigger risk for models outside the gfs/gefs to downplay the rate of intensification than usual.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#73 Postby kevin » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:43 am

On the HAFS-B parent of Pilar you can see a near-cat 5 hurricane forming, which seems to come from the same origin that GFS is developing from.

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Edit: you can also see it on the 96L HAFS-B parent where it intensifies to 924 mb/145 kt at +126 hrs.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#74 Postby Blown Away » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:47 am

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06z GEFS... AOI stays weak it gets buried into CA... Deepening system gets pulled N...
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#75 Postby kevin » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:50 am

HAFS-B indicates we might just be 4 days removed from a hurricane and 5 days from a cat 5 with a TD/TS in as little as 3 days. Very curious to see whether models will jump on board of if HAFS/GFS will bust, because the timeline is quite close now.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#76 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:09 am

I wouldn't look at parents for other systems when looking to see what the HAFS is thinking for this system.
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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#77 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:28 am

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#78 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:38 am

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#79 Postby ChrisH-UK » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:41 am

There is a circulation starting to form up over the Caribbean that fits what the models have been predicting.

Source - https://col.st/MrCVe

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Re: Possible Development in the Central / SW Caribbean

#80 Postby zzzh » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:49 am

:uarrow: That's a different system.
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