Possible development in the SW Caribbean (Is Invest 98L)

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Possible development in the SW Caribbean (Is Invest 98L)

#1 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:35 pm

The model runs will be posted in this thread.

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
700 PM EST Thu Nov 9 2023

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

A broad area of low pressure could form in the southwestern
Caribbean Sea by the middle of next week. Some gradual development
of this system is possible thereafter as it meanders over the
southwestern Caribbean Sea.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...20 percent.

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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#2 Postby abajan » Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:10 pm

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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#3 Postby blp » Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:19 pm

:uarrow: This one may have a couple wrong turns. GEFS has it going right, left, right. Might get stuck. Early days..

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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#4 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:54 pm

The U.S mainland will be protected by the strong shear.

 https://twitter.com/MichaelRLowry/status/1722774424053481559


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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#5 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:59 pm

cycloneye wrote:The U.S mainland will be protected by the strong shear.

https://twitter.com/MichaelRLowry/status/1722774424053481559


Yeah, I agree that it's quite unlikely that the mainland US will really have to worry about this system. However, it's a different story for Jamaica and Cuba. Possibly the Bahamas too.
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#6 Postby msbee » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:06 pm

I heard MR Weatherman on YouTube mentioning Wrong Way Lenny in 1999, which traveled East towards the Caribbean islands. He mentioned the possibility of a similar scenario. Are the models suggesting this possibility also?
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#7 Postby AnnularCane » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:11 pm




It probably won't happen, but I'm kind of hoping we can get maybe a TS or STS in the subtropics over the next week so this can be Wrong Way Whitney (sounds better than Wrong Way Vince). :lol:
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#8 Postby SFLcane » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:27 pm

Huh..

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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#9 Postby Weathertracker96 » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:36 pm



Was just about to comment about that. More ensembles are creeping north compared to earlier. It will be interesting to see how this possibly comes together.
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#10 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:55 pm

msbee wrote:I heard MR Weatherman on YouTube mentioning Wrong Way Lenny in 1999, which traveled East towards the Caribbean islands. He mentioned the possibility of a similar scenario. Are the models suggesting this possibility also?


Hi Barbara. If this develops, it won't be like the 1999 Lenny that moved east thru the Caribbean sea as a powerful cat 4 hurricane that passed south of PR. The models are not on consensus on a track but most move it northeast to Jamaica ,Cuba, Haiti and the Bahamas, but is early for sure.
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#11 Postby Hurricane2022 » Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:19 pm

AnnularCane wrote:



It probably won't happen, but I'm kind of hoping we can get maybe a TS or STS in the subtropics over the next week so this can be Wrong Way Whitney (sounds better than Wrong Way Vince). :lol:

In the subtropics it wouldn't be funny, as every year there is at least one or two systems that goes backwards instead of heading west in that region (Ex. Don '23, Danielle '22, Wanda '21)

It would be cooler to see a Wrong Way Whitney (WWW :lol: ) in the MDR, or in the middle of the Caribbean or even maybe in the GOM (without affecting any place significantly, of course)
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#12 Postby Jr0d » Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:27 pm

We got a lemon.

Usually by this time of the year many have stopped watching...hence the lack of posts here.

It is a little close to home in the Keys, but a significant impact here is unlikely but certainly something not to turn our back on..
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#13 Postby floridasun » Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:06 pm


I think most we see ts wind of 60 mph
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#14 Postby AnnularCane » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:22 pm

Jr0d wrote:We got a lemon.

Usually by this time of the year many have stopped watching...hence the lack of posts here.



The all-too-recent 97L incident probably didn't help either.
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Re: RE: Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#15 Postby Woofde » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:27 am

AnnularCane wrote:
Jr0d wrote:We got a lemon.

Usually by this time of the year many have stopped watching...hence the lack of posts here.



The all-too-recent 97L incident probably didn't help either.
I've still been popping in to see what's happening, but the models being so awful this year has definitely made me not really put any stock into them. There are just too many absurd model runs and busts this year to trust them. Just look to what Otis did without any model support. If we actually get a storm or circulation that looks promising instead, that would be another story.

I am interested why it feels like they've took such a large step back compared to previous years. Is it just due to the unusual atmospheric setup present this year, or are there larger issues?Image
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#16 Postby SouthFLTropics » Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:12 am

Ok… the 00z GFS tonight may easily be in the top 3 crazy runs of all time. I tried to post a gif of it but for some reason I couldn’t get it to upload to Imgur.


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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#17 Postby ThunderForce » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:56 am

00z GFS:
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#18 Postby kevin » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:59 am

00z GFS

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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#19 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:23 am


Should I start the preps, 384H is making me nervous.
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Re: Possible development in the SW Caribbean

#20 Postby REDHurricane » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:36 am

kevin wrote:00z GFS

https://imgur.com/o1TuBuL


You know, one of these days the GFS will actually be spot-on with a sicko run like this and we'll all have to say sorry for making fun of it
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