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Now That Frances Is In the Gulf of Mexico...

#1 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:41 pm

...anyone want to predict the next landfall??? http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USLoca ... odnav=none
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#2 Postby Opal storm » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:43 pm

Between P'cola and Panama City.
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#3 Postby FritzPaul » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:46 pm

Orange beach and Destin.
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#4 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:49 pm

With no convection within 80 miles of the center and surface winds in the 20-30 kt range, it doesn't really matter where "landfall" occurs. It's dead. Not even TS-force winds now. Looks extratropical on satellite imagery.
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#5 Postby frankthetank » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:51 pm

i agree...not impressive on imagery i just peeked at....on to IVAN...!
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#6 Postby Opal storm » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:54 pm

wxman57 wrote:With no convection within 80 miles of the center and surface winds in the 20-30 kt range, who cares? It's dead. Not even TS-force winds now. Looks extratropical on satellite imagery.

What do you mean who cares,people in the panhandle are being evacuaded becuase of this storm.A lot of people care,including me.
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#7 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:57 pm

wxman57 wrote:With no convection within 80 miles of the center and surface winds in the 20-30 kt range, who cares? It's dead. Not even TS-force winds now. Looks extratropical on satellite imagery.

Some people care..if you don't stay off of the thread.
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#8 Postby SwampDawg » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:58 pm

wxman57 wrote:With no convection within 80 miles of the center and surface winds in the 20-30 kt range, who cares? It's dead. Not even TS-force winds now. Looks extratropical on satellite imagery.


Wow...now that was a statement that i wasn't ready to see coming from a professional Meteorologist
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#9 Postby FungusMoldlyColdcuts » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:59 pm

wxman57 wrote:With no convection within 80 miles of the center and surface winds in the 20-30 kt range, who cares? It's dead. Not even TS-force winds now. Looks extratropical on satellite imagery.


Terrific prognostication for a 'professional met' . Gag me
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#10 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:00 pm

wxman57 wrote:With no convection within 80 miles of the center and surface winds in the 20-30 kt range, who cares? It's dead. Not even TS-force winds now. Looks extratropical on satellite imagery.



You remind me of another poster on this board after that comment.
I think his initials are DT something.
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#11 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:00 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:
wxman57 wrote:With no convection within 80 miles of the center and surface winds in the 20-30 kt range, who cares? It's dead. Not even TS-force winds now. Looks extratropical on satellite imagery.

Some people care..if you don't stay off of the thread.


I didn't mean to imply that I don't care that Frances caused a lot of damage. I meant that Frances is in such a state now that it would not even qualify to be upgraded to a depression.

I'm frustrated with the NHC going with this "path of least regret" when, clearly, Frances is hardly a threat to the FL panhandle. Frances won't do anything to the Panhandle but produce 15-30 kt wind and a few thunderstorms. It's just a low level swirl now, void of convection for the most part. You wouldn't evacuate for an afternoon thunderstorm, would you? The NHC got itself in a bind putting out a hurricane warning - there's not even a TS out there now. Show me one sustained 35kt wind anywhere. With such a large, open center, it won't regenerate into anything over the panhandle.
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#12 Postby FungusMoldlyColdcuts » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:00 pm

and sadly enough, if you knew the actual definition of 'convection', or even a 'tropical system', you might have a clue of what you're talking about.
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#13 Postby Opal storm » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:01 pm

SwampDawg wrote:
wxman57 wrote:With no convection within 80 miles of the center and surface winds in the 20-30 kt range, who cares? It's dead. Not even TS-force winds now. Looks extratropical on satellite imagery.


Wow...now that was a statement that i wasn't ready to see coming from a professional Meteorologist

I agree.He keeps saying it's moving north when really it's not,and now he's saying it's no longer a T.S when really it is.I would like to know where he's getting this info,becuase mets here in the panhandle are not saying whet he's saying.
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#14 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:03 pm

wxman57--I'm not asking about strength...I'm only asking for a prediction of landfall. I didn't call it a hurricane. I still find it interesting to see where this system makes landfall after all of the wild predictions of the computer models.
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#15 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:03 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Sean in New Orleans wrote:
wxman57 wrote:With no convection within 80 miles of the center and surface winds in the 20-30 kt range, who cares? It's dead. Not even TS-force winds now. Looks extratropical on satellite imagery.

Some people care..if you don't stay off of the thread.


Frances won't do anything to the Panhandle but supply 15-25 kt wind and a few thunderstorms. It's just a low level swirl now. You wouldn't evacuate for an afternoon thunderstorm, would you? The NHC got itself in a bind putting out a hurricane warning - there's not even a TS out there now. Show me one sustained 35kt wind anywhere. With such a large, open center, it won't regenerate into anything over the panhandle.


Wxman57 your reputation is going to take a hit big time on this board after the last few posts you've made . I think you should have kept them to yourself. Oh well open mouth insert foot. :)
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#16 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:09 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:wxman57--I'm not asking about strength...I'm only asking for a prediction of landfall. I didn't call it a hurricane. I still find it interesting to see where this system makes landfall after all of the wild predictions of the computer models.


I'm sorry about using the wrong words above. I certainly care about what happens to the folks in Florida. My point is that there isn't anything left to MAKE landfall, so there is nothing much to be concerned about in the panhandle. There are some squalls approaching the Carolinas, however, that may make things a bit breezy up there tonight.

Take a look at the latest satellite imagery. There are now about 3 thunderstorms associated with Frances. Absolutely nothing near the center, and generally 15-25 kts within 150 miles of the center. You will hardly know it passes except that the wind will shift around. When a tropical storm gets to this stage it's very difficult for it to ever recover.

Again, my apologies for implying that I didn't care. I just came off 14 days of 12 hr shifts working this storm and I'm a bit tired.

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#17 Postby Harbormaster » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:11 pm

Post all 15 to 30 KT gusts here!!!!

Very irresponsible.................
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#18 Postby FungusMoldlyColdcuts » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:11 pm

interesting, looking at the lightning data, there are many thunderstorms directly associated with Frances over the florida S penninsula and offshore and into the carolinas. 3 thunderstorms, very accurate assesment by the experienced and well-spoken forecaster.
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#19 Postby btsgmdad » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:15 pm

My GRWlevel3 software is showing between 25 and 30 moderate to heavy cells over west Florida.
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#20 Postby opera ghost » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:15 pm

Image

Radar does indicate storms... right? I'm still learning so I migth be wrong- but this is what I get for my 248 out of Tampa.... in the last 10 min.
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