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#41 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:50 am

First flight should leave around 1pm from St. Croix and arrive at 2pm.
Another plane is scheduled to be in the storm by tonight.

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I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. SUSPECT AREA (LESSER ANTILLES)
       FLIGHT ONE                     FLIGHT TWO
       A. 01/1800Z                    A. 02/0000Z
       B. AFXXX 01DDA INVEST          B. NOAA9 02DDA SURV
       C. 01/1700Z                    C. 01/1730Z
       D. 18.0N 62.5W                 D. NA
       E. 01/1730Z TO 01/2330Z        E. NA
       F. SFC TO 10,000 FT     


I'll be on vacation in Orlando this week, so I won't be able to follow recon reports. See you guys again Friday night.
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#42 Postby abajan » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:51 am

Bailey1777 wrote:How early will recon get in there?

Not in time to be of any real help for the Leeward Islands. Pretty much the same story for the entire Lesser Antilles every year.
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#43 Postby WmE » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:52 am

What we have Chris?? :eek:
Even I'm surprised and I never wrote this one off.
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#44 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:52 am

Long-Range Disc from HPC on Chris. Could be GOM threat down the road. :eek:

T.S. CHRIS MOVES INTO THE PRELIM FORECAST AREA JUST AFTER THE
OFFICIAL NHC FORECAST PD AND FOLLOWS AN EXTRAPOLATED NHC TRACK.
BELIEVE THE RIDGE TO ITS N BETWEEN CHRIS AND THE AMPLIFYING ERN
TROF SHOULD BE STRONG ENUF TO KEEP THE SYS ON A WLY TRACK ACROSS S
FL AND INTO THE GOMEX...BUT CONFIDENCE IS LOW AS NONE OF THE OP
MODELS HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THE SYS.

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/basicwx/day0-7loop.html
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#45 Postby WindRunner » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:01 am

abajan wrote:
Bailey1777 wrote:How early will recon get in there?

Not in time to be of any real help for the Leeward Islands. Pretty much the same story for the entire Lesser Antilles every year.


They should be taking off on the edge of the storm, which will be at 1pm EDT today.
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#46 Postby kenl01 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:03 am

Well number one, it is August.

And as to Chris, I wouldn't get too excited yet. The discussion still mentions:

BY 72 HOURS...CHRIS IS FORECAST TO WEAKEN CONSIDERABLY AND BE DRIVEN
WESTWARD OVER OR SOUTH OF HISPANIOLA...OR DISSIPATE COMPLETELY.

Plus further strenthening is likely only if Chris moves between the two ULL's in place.
I wouldn't be too sure about that yet..........
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#47 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:04 am

Ken, thats actually what the GFDL does, the NHC actually forecast it to track to the north of thos eislands and be a risk to Florida.
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#48 Postby Cookiely » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:07 am

From the Miami discussion (JUST A WEAK WAVE)
EXTENDED PERIOD...THU THROUGH MON...DEEP MOISTURE GRADUALLY BEGINS
TO INCREASE THU AND MORE SO FRI AND INTO THE WEEKEND AS THE
CIRCULATION ABOUT THE UPPER LOW IN THE GULF PULLS MOISTURE NORTHWARD
FROM THE CARIB. SOME SPEED DIVERGENCE POSSIBLE OVER AREA INCREASING
INSTABILITY BUT WILL DISCOUNT MAV HIGH POPS FOR THU AT THIS TIME
UNTIL UPPER ACTUALLY MOVES WESTWARD. THUS...POPS GRADUALLY EDGE
TOWARD NORM. GFS INDICATES...AT THIS TIME...REMNANTS OF TD 3 E OF
THE LESSOR ANTILLES MOVING ACROSS S FLA AS A WEAK WAVE OVER THE
WEEKEND. SOMETHING TO WATCH BUT CURRENT PACKAGE WILL NOT EMPHASIS
THIS SYSTEM AT THIS TIME. LET US SEE WHAT TRANSPIRES.

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#49 Postby kenl01 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:08 am

I wouldn't pay attention to it if I were in Florida at this time.
It's much too early.
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#50 Postby Bluefrog » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:09 am

crap crap crap :eek: I'm not ready for another one !!!! :roll: :( :grr:
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#51 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:17 am

Next advisory at 8 AM EDT.Will they bump up the winds?
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#52 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:18 am

My gas generator has been ready since Sunday!!! Bring them on!!!
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#53 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:18 am

Like I said last night, slow strengthening and WNW movement. Expect Chris to reach hurricane strength come Wed.
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#54 Postby JonathanBelles » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:19 am

gulp i get up to see this :cry:
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Lets not rip Franklin too much.

#55 Postby stormchazer » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:25 am

I am know fan of Franklin, but he did make his forecast based on the tools and facts in front of him:

THE CENTER OF THE DEPRESSION IS LOCATED NEAR THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE
CONVECTIVE MASS...DUE TO WESTERLY SHEAR RESULTING PRIMARILY FROM
STRONG EASTERLIES IN THE LOWER TROPOSPHERE. THE UPPER ENVIRONMENT
AHEAD OF THE DEPRESSION IS COMPLICATED...AND THE EVOLUTION OF A
LARGE UPPER-LOW JUST EAST OF THE BAHAMAS WILL BE IMPORTANT TO THE
FUTURE OF THE DEPRESSION. SOME GUIDANCE...PARTICULARLY THE
UKMET...SUGGESTS THAT THIS UPPER LOW WILL KEEP A STRONG WESTERLY
SHEARING FLOW IN PLACE IN THE PATH OF THE DEPRESSION. OTHER GLOBAL
MODELS RELAX THIS FLOW...BUT IT MAY NOT MATTER MUCH...AS THE SYSTEM
CONTINUES TO DEAL WITH A VERY DRY AIR MASS. THE GFDL MODEL
DISSIPATES THE SYSTEM...AS DO ALL OF THE GLOBAL MODELS.
THE SHIPS
MODEL SHOWS A VERY SLOW DEVELOPMENT TREND...BUT PERHAPS THIS MODEL
CANNOT APPRECIATE JUST HOW FRAGILE A SYSTEM THE DEPRESSION IS RIGHT
NOW. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS THE GLOBAL MODEL GUIDANCE THAT
SUGGESTS THIS CYCLONE MAY BE SHORT LIVED.

Chris looks great now and things change, but Franklin's forecast could come to pass, or not. I am not ready to string him up though.

Now back to Chris.
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#56 Postby kenl01 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:25 am

Unlikely to strengthen rapidly anytime soon. AccuWx had a pretty good summary as to why:

"While Chris may strengthen somewhat over the next couple of days, rapid intensification appears to be unlikely. This is because Chris will face several obstacles during his west to northwestward track. First will come a pocket of dry air in the atmosphere, some of which will likely wrap into the circulation of the tropical storm. There is also the issue of wind shear. There are currently two areas of upper-level low pressure, one that is doing some shearing of Chris right now, and another over the Bahamas that could also come into play. However, many forecast models suggest these lows will weaken, and there is a path Chris could follow by which he would avoid much of the destructive wind shear. Finally, and perhaps most significantly, is the possibility of interaction with Puerto Rico and Hispaniola. Many strong systems, or storms that had the potential to strengthen, have been stopped in their tracks by the mountainous terrain of these two Caribbean islands. At this time, Chris is forecast to track north of the islands, but a deviation farther to the west would significantly weaken the storm or destroy it altogether."
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#57 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:27 am

Cookiely wrote:From the Miami discussion (JUST A WEAK WAVE)
EXTENDED PERIOD...THU THROUGH MON...DEEP MOISTURE GRADUALLY BEGINS
TO INCREASE THU AND MORE SO FRI AND INTO THE WEEKEND AS THE
CIRCULATION ABOUT THE UPPER LOW IN THE GULF PULLS MOISTURE NORTHWARD
FROM THE CARIB. SOME SPEED DIVERGENCE POSSIBLE OVER AREA INCREASING
INSTABILITY BUT WILL DISCOUNT MAV HIGH POPS FOR THU AT THIS TIME
UNTIL UPPER ACTUALLY MOVES WESTWARD. THUS...POPS GRADUALLY EDGE
TOWARD NORM. GFS INDICATES...AT THIS TIME...REMNANTS OF TD 3 E OF
THE LESSOR ANTILLES MOVING ACROSS S FLA AS A WEAK WAVE OVER THE
WEEKEND. SOMETHING TO WATCH BUT CURRENT PACKAGE WILL NOT EMPHASIS
THIS SYSTEM AT THIS TIME. LET US SEE WHAT TRANSPIRES.

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I hope miami nws is correct but i suspect they were basing their disco on alot of the same stuff franklin was.
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#58 Postby stormchazer » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:28 am

kenl01 wrote:Unlikely to strengthen rapidly anytime soon. AccuWx had a pretty good summary as to why:

"While Chris may strengthen somewhat over the next couple of days, rapid intensification appears to be unlikely. This is because Chris will face several obstacles during his west to northwestward track. "


Sounds a lot like Franklin's initial 11pm TWD.
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#59 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:28 am

Bailey1777 wrote:Well thats that. Alot of people that wrote this off yesterday are going to be suprised when they wake up!


I was wondering what that 2300 forecast was all about. Then again, if it does slam into Hispaniola, it will be shredded...
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#60 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:34 am

All I have to say is Thank God for NHC's Forecaster Stewart & for Mets with common sense, and like I said last night before going to bed, "this is the kind of storm that has to be taken day by day or if not hour by hour, like it has proven to be so". So all of this crap about about wishcasting: "The SAL is going to kill it" or "It will be come a hurricane is so many hours" is not going to do any good.
So this might be my last post for this storm in this forum because I don't think is going to get any better in here.
Good day!
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