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#1041 Postby SouthernWx » Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:51 pm

vbhoutex wrote:WELCOME BACK PERRY!! I look forward to your considerable store of knowledge helping us figure this all out!!!


Thanks David....it's good to be back! :)

It definitely looks complicated....especially if TD-2 becomes a hurricane as the SHIPS guidance indicates.
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#1042 Postby Nimbus » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:01 pm

So it's confirmed. Bonnie has a tight low level circulation with lowest surface pressure of around 1008. Highest winds were 45 knots in the southeast quadrant.
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Bonnie Forecast 5/Three Forecast 1

#1043 Postby ncweatherwizard » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:17 pm

Bonnie:

http://www.nencweather.com/tropicalweat ... onnie.html

No hurricane forecast...landfall in the FL panhandle, but possible anywhere from LA eastward.

If things work out just right, that might be a little conservative, but I'm pretty comfortable with 80kts right now...I don't have a hurricane until 72 hours...seems sensible...lots of "stuff" to consider that's in the forecast. Things look to be quite conducive at the end of the forecast period I will also say.

http://www.nencweather.com/tropicalweat ... three.html
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Re: Tropical Depression Three Forecast 1...80kts @120

#1044 Postby Hyperstorm » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:19 pm

ncweatherwizard wrote:If things work out just right, that might be a little conservative, but I'm pretty comfortable with 80kts right now...I don't have a hurricane until 72 hours...seems sensible...lots of "stuff" to consider that's in the forecast.

http://www.nencweather.com/tropicalweat ... three.html


As you well said, that might sound just a little too conservative, but there's plenty of time to monitor the system. It is still days away from any landmass, especially the US. The forecast shouldn't be a problem that far out, as there's enough time to adjust it if necessary.
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we have BONNIE in gulf

#1045 Postby *StOrmsPr* » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:22 pm

40kt

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO TPC/NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONES.

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER NORTH ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL STORM BONNIE (AL022004) ON 20040809 1800 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
040809 1800 040810 0600 040810 1800 040811 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 23.0N 88.6W 23.6N 89.9W 24.2N 90.9W 24.9N 91.3W
BAMM 23.0N 88.6W 23.7N 89.8W 24.3N 90.4W 25.1N 90.1W
A98E 23.0N 88.6W 24.1N 90.5W 25.3N 91.9W 26.6N 92.1W
LBAR 23.0N 88.6W 23.9N 90.2W 24.9N 91.5W 26.1N 92.1W
SHIP 40KTS 51KTS 60KTS 68KTS
DSHP 40KTS 51KTS 60KTS 68KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
040811 1800 040812 1800 040813 1800 040814 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 26.0N 90.7W 29.1N 85.2W 34.7N 79.5W 41.6N 72.4W
BAMM 25.8N 89.0W 26.9N 85.1W 29.6N 81.8W 34.4N 75.9W
A98E 27.8N 91.2W 31.2N 87.7W 37.0N 79.6W 46.9N 65.2W
LBAR 27.8N 91.5W 31.9N 85.1W 39.8N 72.7W 44.2N 62.9W
SHIP 76KTS 83KTS 73KTS 60KTS
DSHP 76KTS 83KTS 48KTS 38KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 23.0N LONCUR = 88.6W DIRCUR = 300DEG SPDCUR = 11KT
LATM12 = 22.0N LONM12 = 86.6W DIRM12 = 292DEG SPDM12 = 11KT
LATM24 = 20.9N LONM24 = 84.3W
WNDCUR = 40KT RMAXWD = 20NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1013MB OUTRAD = 100NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 25NM RD34SE = 25NM RD34SW = 25NM RD34NW = 25NM
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#1046 Postby ChaserUK » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:23 pm

Well it certainly looks like I am gonna have to do some sweet talking at work if I am to have a chance to chase this thing. But I might just ask for next week off work just in case - I can always cancel later.
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#1047 Postby Air Force Met » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:23 pm

Sure do...56 kts...55 at surface

URNT12 KNHC 092001
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 09/2001Z
B. 23 DEG 03 MIN N
88 DEG 37 MIN W
C. NA
D. 55 KT
E. 065 DEG 004 NM
F. 132 DEG 56 KT
G. 060 DEG 005 NM
H. EXTRAP 1007 MB
I. 25 C/ 322 M
J. 26 C/ 334 M
K. 24 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 1345 /1
O. 1/1 NM
P. AF963 0302A INVEST OB 13
MAX FL WIND 56 KT SE QUAD 1952Z. SLP EXTRAP FROM 1500FT.
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#1048 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:23 pm

:eek: :eek: :eek:
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#1049 Postby Hurricanehink » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:23 pm

Whoa! Thanks for that. It has held convection all day. Well, let's see where it goes...
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#1050 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:24 pm

Air Force Met wrote:Sure do...56 kts...55 at surface

URNT12 KNHC 092001
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 09/2001Z
B. 23 DEG 03 MIN N
88 DEG 37 MIN W
C. NA
D. 55 KT
E. 065 DEG 004 NM
F. 132 DEG 56 KT
G. 060 DEG 005 NM
H. EXTRAP 1007 MB
I. 25 C/ 322 M
J. 26 C/ 334 M
K. 24 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 1345 /1
O. 1/1 NM
P. AF963 0302A INVEST OB 13
MAX FL WIND 56 KT SE QUAD 1952Z. SLP EXTRAP FROM 1500FT.



Bingo!! Exactly what I was waiting for!!
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#1051 Postby Hyperstorm » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:25 pm

Exactly! This system has always had potential! I don't understand why some people just gave up on it as if it weren't close to the US...
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#1052 Postby bkhusky2 » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:25 pm

Wow! 56knots! That surprises me, but I'm glad to see it. I don't know if anything is standing in this things way from becoming a hurricane and or major hurricane.
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#1053 Postby Hurricanehink » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:27 pm

Not a bad forecast. It may not strengthen that much, or it can explode. It just needs to slow a little, and hold together.
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#1054 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:28 pm

It's probably been a TD since last night if it's already Bonnie.
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T.D. #2 (or Bonnie) has some issues ...

#1055 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:30 pm

Notice the LARGE outflow boundary that busted out of the NNE side of the cyclone on VIS loop imagery ... saw the RECON report of 55 kt winds EST at the SFC, but was that the gust front from a large squall? ...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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Tropical Storm Bonnie Advisory 1

#1056 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:30 pm

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#1057 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:32 pm

That outflow boundary busted out this morning. I doubt the wind was measured from the boundary as it is well away from the center now. There is intense convection right over the center and that's probably where the measurement came from.
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#1058 Postby Hyperstorm » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:33 pm

Unfortunately, this pattern reminds me of 1988. TS Florence developed in the southern Gulf where TS Bonnie is located, while at the very same time, TS Gilbert was developing off the Windward Islands. Florence eventually came to a landfall in LA as a Hurricane and Gilbert....well, we all know what it did. Not to alarm anyone, but things are going to become unusually active in the tropics coming up...
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#1059 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:35 pm

According to the forecast path it will be hitting the Florida panhandle on Thursday. Looks more like an October path due to unseasonably strong cold front coming through late Wednesday night/early Thursday morning.
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#1060 Postby Lindaloo » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:35 pm

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There is a better chance of ralph nader winning the presidency than NON thing that was once TD 2 developing into a TC

Typhoon_Willie wrote:
You forget about the possibility of TD#2 developing as MWatkins has mentioned in another thread...If that happens then TD 3 may be forced northward a bit sooner than forecasted!
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Someone serve DT a nice big plate of crow. LOL!!
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