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No trough to recurve Earl?

#121 Postby MGC » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:01 pm

Looking out six days and I see no troughs that will recurve Earl. NHC 5 day forecast puts Earl off the tip of western Cuba. Looks like the GOM will be the hot spot for TC this season.....MGC
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#122 Postby LaBreeze » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:06 pm

I've been reading on other posts that there will be a trough coming in, not as strong as the most recent one, and it probably will pick up Earl. I know that this is far out still and we will just have to wait and see. Is there a stronger thought towards no trough at this time?
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#123 Postby wx247 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:08 pm

I don't see anything right now that would move Earl north at least through 48 hours. It looks to slow down some beyond that time frame. JMHO.
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#124 Postby PurdueWx80 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:09 pm

I was just looking at some ensembles and a few other models...most have a pretty good ridge sitting near the Bahamas and a trough digging into the NE, but not even close to the depth of the current one, and much further east. I think Earl would likely miss that trough and keep following the edge of the ridge. If the ridge ends up east of FL, it will probably stay way south and do something like Mitch did, although it'd move fast and probably end up in the Bay of Campeche. The UKMET takes it to near N'awlins, but it screwed up royally on Charley this far out.
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#125 Postby LaBreeze » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:09 pm

Where is Earl predicted to be in 48 hours?
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#126 Postby wx247 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:11 pm

In the C. Caribbean south of Haiti/Dominican Republic. Most likely just south of that island.
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#127 Postby LaBreeze » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:13 pm

Thanks. I'm not relying on UKMET at this moment. Sorry for the double post folks.
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Won't happen

#128 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:23 pm

nikolai wrote:earl could possible be a cane with winds of 145mph upon entering GOM. We're having a discussion about it in chat. Watch out from the Keys to Houston.


I would say that the odds are in Florida's favor that it won't happen.
The Charley track scenario (strong Aug. front) was a unique one that will be difficult to repeat. IMO
I think this MAY be a central GOM problem but hopefully Earl won't make that far west and stay out of the GOM.
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#129 Postby Tip » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:27 pm

Actually, not so much of a strong cold front (it stalled near the Apps) as a deep trough reaching all the way to the gulf.
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#130 Postby PurdueWx80 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:42 pm

Heck yeah it's a strong cold front - dew points are just above 50 degrees all the way to the Gulf and all sorts of record lows have been set from the Gulf States to the Canadian border.
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#131 Postby mahmoo » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:48 pm

I've certainly been enjoying this rather odd, but cool weather, here in Lafayette :D
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#132 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:49 pm

Looks like a big upper level high rolling down into the caribbean/eastern gulf on the water vapor loop. There is some shear just west of Earl. After he passes through the islands will the shear inhibit development or is the shear forecast to diminish?
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#133 Postby LaBreeze » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:50 pm

Yep, 58 degrees on the Louisiana coast this morning - very strange indeed for mid-August.
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#134 Postby njoynit » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:56 pm

We set a record low of 57 this morning.I have to check calendar to be sure it don't say Oct
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hope it turns out to be wrong, but ...

#135 Postby Weatherboy1 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:00 pm

Just thought I'd mention the 12Z run of the NOGAPS model shows Earl moving through the Caribbean, then starting to recurve around Jamaica, moving over the Isle of Youth and Cuba and heading into -- you guessed it -- the SE Gulf by 144 hours. That's all these people need is more wind and rain. Hope it doesn't verify!

Go to this link, public access, then the Tropical Atlantic NGP run to see the loop:

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/PUBLIC/
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Re: hope it turns out to be wrong, but ...

#136 Postby adelphi_sky » Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:06 pm

Weatherboy1 wrote:Just thought I'd mention the 12Z run of the NOGAPS model shows Earl moving through the Caribbean, then starting to recurve around Jamaica, moving over the Isle of Youth and Cuba and heading into -- you guessed it -- the SE Gulf by 144 hours. That's all these people need is more wind and rain. Hope it doesn't verify!

Go to this link, public access, then the Tropical Atlantic NGP run to see the loop:

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/PUBLIC/



You sure you not gettin that confused with Charley? :-)
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nogaps and earl

#137 Postby stormandan28 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:14 pm

looks like Florida but seems to be the only one doing this right now.
http://bricker.met.psu.edu/trop-cgi/nog ... =Animation
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we got lucky in pensacola beach

#138 Postby CoyoteUglyGurl » Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:16 pm

PENSACOLA BEACH HERE
WE WHERE SUPPPSE TO GET THAT STORM IT WAS HEADING THIS WAY. THEY SAID IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR THE TURN OR THE FRONT WE BE TALKING ABOUT CHARLEY UP HERE IN FLORIDA PANHANDLE AREA. WE KEEPING A EYE ON EARL, THEY SAID IT COULD BE A MAJOR STORM. i WORRY ABOUT HOW LOW IT IS AND THAT COULD MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENT. SEE WHAT HAPPEN WITH JUST A LITTLE TURN.

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#139 Postby PurdueWx80 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:18 pm

Yeah, I see a ton of shear ahead of Earl. Right now, that upper level low well to the north is ventilating it, but I think the storm could be slow to develop with it's proximity to land and the upper level winds.
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Re: we got lucky in pensacola beach

#140 Postby adelphi_sky » Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:22 pm

CoyoteUglyGurl wrote:PENSACOLA BEACH HERE
WE WHERE SUPPPSE TO GET THAT STORM IT WAS HEADING THIS WAY. THEY SAID IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR THE TURN OR THE FRONT WE BE TALKING ABOUT CHARLEY UP HERE IN FLORIDA PANHANDLE AREA. WE KEEPING A EYE ON EARL, THEY SAID IT COULD BE A MAJOR STORM. i WORRY ABOUT HOW LOW IT IS AND THAT COULD MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENT. SEE WHAT HAPPEN WITH JUST A LITTLE TURN.

kAT



Sorta comes to mind that old saying about lightening never striking the same place twice. I will say this. IF Earl hit even within 100 miles of where CHarley hit, wouldn't we be the only people to witness this in our life time? I mean what are the odds? That's almost like a tornado hitting your house, then 7 days later, a tornado hitting it again. The odds must be astronomical.
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