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#121 Postby Opal storm » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:49 pm

I guess I was wrong about it being downgraded later today :lol:
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#122 Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:49 pm

Finally........Everyone can take a deep breath!!!
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#123 Postby WXBUFFJIM » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:50 pm

Definitely interesting to note those surface winds. Either way, heavy rain and dangerous rip currents are the primary issues along the Carolina coast whether this is a storm or not.

Just got a tropical storm Alex now with 40 mph winds. Center is still at 80 miles south southeast of Charleston, SC.

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#124 Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:50 pm

Finally........Everyone can take a deep breath!!!
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#125 Postby Opal storm » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:56 pm

Everybody,get out your hurricane tracking charts 8-)
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#126 Postby lilbump3000 » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:59 pm

I wonder if it will get any stronger than what they think. It wasnt forecasted to become a tropical storm for another 18-22 more hours.
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#127 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:00 pm

Interesting, in 6 hours Alex went from 30 mph to 40 mph. I think being stationary has help a lot.
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#128 Postby wxman57 » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:02 pm

Don't get too excited. This is a bogus upgrade if I ever saw one. 41kts at flight level in a squall well-removed from several weak centers does not make it a TS. That 41 kts is at flight level - 1500 ft - and it needs to be reduced to sea level, as winds at the surface are about 80% of the winds at FL. That means maybe 32-33 kts at the surface. But the plane has been estimating no more than 25 kts at the surface on the reports. So this upgrade does not really indicate any trend. It looks as pathetic as it did this morning.

I think Jim Cantore's "Angry Seas" comment got to them. :wink:
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#129 Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:03 pm

I dunno.....????? It will be interesting.....
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#130 Postby WXBUFFJIM » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:03 pm

It's right over the warm gulf stream waters. That kind of helps. Any quick intensification seems unlikely because of the northerly shear. The big story will be heavy rains and very dangerous rip currents along the coast from Maryland down through Florida. If you encounter a rip current, swim parallel to the beach until you get out of the rip current, then either call for help or swim toward shore. Never panic, that's the worse thing to do in a rip current. If not an experienced swimmer, best bet is just stay out of the water altogether.

More updates throughout the afternoon.

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#131 Postby Brent » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:04 pm

lilbump3000 wrote:I wonder if it will get any stronger than what they think. It wasnt forecasted to become a tropical storm for another 18-22 more hours.


NHC says strengthening is possible. :eek:
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#132 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:04 pm

wxman57 wrote:Don't get too excited. This is a bogus upgrade if I ever saw one. 41kts at flight level in a squall well-removed from several weak centers does not make it a TS. That 41 kts is at flight level - 1500 ft - and it needs to be reduced to sea level, as winds at the surface are about 80% of the winds at FL. That means maybe 32-33 kts at the surface. But the plane has been estimating no more than 25 kts at the surface on the reports. So this upgrade does not really indicate any trend. It looks as pathetic as it did this morning.

I think Jim Cantore's "Angry Seas" comment got to them. :wink:


You called it in another thread, Chris ... with regards to the upgrade if they found 40-45 kts FL winds.
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#133 Postby abajan » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:08 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:Finally........Everyone can take a deep breath!!!


I've been waiting to exhale for an eternity! :lol:
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#134 Postby vacanechaser » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:10 pm

[quote="wxman57"] But the plane has been estimating no more than 25 kts at the surface on the reports.
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TRUE,, UNTIL THE LAST VORTEX MESSAGE... 35KT..
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#135 Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:12 pm

Hahahahahahaha.... I hear ya Abajan...
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#136 Postby Stormchaser16 » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:12 pm

Wxman.... last vortex message had 35Kt winds at the SFC.

Although i do tend to agree with you, there is more then one developed center, and it doesnt look too healthy, nonetheless, it IS worthy of upgrading it to a minimal TS.
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#137 Postby DerekOrtt » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:14 pm

That is an estimate of 35KT at the surface.

However, those estimates if there is an error, it tends to be on the low side. Therefore, best to take the path of least regret and go ahead and call this a storm. Can always correct it in the best track.

P.S. This is much better than Grace from last year, lol
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#138 Postby corpusbreeze » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:15 pm

is having a tough time wrapping around the center. A lot of talk about multiple centers but there is clearly one center and it is very exposed north of the heavy convection. It does not like like it will be wrapping around the center anytime soon.

Today is last day in which 90L can get it together, and it does not look like it is making any real effort. Dry air has hurt this system the whole time across the gulf. Oh well the CV season looks to be heating up.
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#139 Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:16 pm

Hmmm.......
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#140 Postby vacanechaser » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:16 pm

DerekOrtt wrote:That is an estimate of 35KT at the surface.

However, those estimates if there is an error, it tends to be on the low side. Therefore, best to take the path of least regret and go ahead and call this a storm. Can always correct it in the best track.

P.S. This is much better than Grace from last year, lol


OR EVEN HENRI.... LOL...
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