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Re: Plans To Reduce The Strength of Ivan??

#5741 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:03 am

SwampDawg wrote:
Scott_inVA wrote:Dear God! Please...

No more Dyn-O-Mat stories.


Still more interesting than pin the track on the Hurricane Map... :lol:


Good one!! :lol:
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#5742 Postby dennis1x1 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:04 am

no, the worst is still around the primary eyewall..and its well offshore...the secondary wind maxima may be close to the coast....
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#5743 Postby tallywx » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:05 am

In all defense to NHC, Ivan is exactly on track with their 5 a.m. track (it'll hit the 2 p.m. location predicted at 5 a.m. spot on), so it doesn't seem to be trending any further west than the NHC currently predicts at the moment.
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JOhn Gerrard in Miami

#5744 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:06 am

just told people north of the 7 mile bridge in the keys to take your shutters down. What do you think about that? Also said in Dade and Broward we would feel no effects from Ivan. That sounds like the all clear even though the evacuation order has not been lifted and the NHC basically says we don;t know where its going due to weak steering currents.
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#5745 Postby birdwomn » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:07 am

After Ivan
1) starts to make a turn
and/or
2) crosses into the GOM

in my unprofessional opinion
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#5746 Postby lilbump3000 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:07 am

Well the keys may only experience tropical storm force winds at best. So if you need shutters for tropical storm winds, then keep them up.
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#5747 Postby Ivanova » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:11 am

It almost appears Ivan is intentionally avoiding direct hits on
these islands... it seems to be put in a direct path towards the
gates of Ishtar... or what is that ocean gateway to the
Gulf of Mexico called ??
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Re: JOhn Gerrard in Miami

#5748 Postby Aquawind » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:12 am

jlauderdal wrote:just told people north of the 7 mile bridge in the keys to take your shutters down. What do you think about that? Also said in Dade and Broward we would feel no effects from Ivan. That sounds like the all clear even though the evacuation order has not been lifted and the NHC basically says we don;t know where its going due to weak steering currents.


Wow..Early blunder blurp..

HecK I am in the cone still as of 11am..You all could getta good blow yet..with the uncertainty of the track and the fact it's a CAT5 to remember.. :roll:
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Re: 11am projected path

#5749 Postby mobilebay » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:13 am

rdcrds wrote:it's not more right, it's the same as before. NHC refuses to move it west because of the tampabay area. If they do, they are out of the cone, then if it makes the turn like it may... Oh boy do they have PR cleanup to do with a hurricane going outside of the cone..So they are just protecting themselves. Sadly it's kinda at the risk of the people to the west. But after what florida has been through they are protecting them, and themselves for the eventually " right hook "

You are absolutly correct. 100%
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#5750 Postby wxwatcher2 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:13 am

I think one more day of waiting to evac the keys might have been wise in this case and saved a lot of people some grief.
I understand (sort of) they dynamics in a keys evacuation but, a lot of time and gas was used and where are these people staying now? I'll bet a lot of them want to go back.

I think everyone should get out of the way of a major hurricane. Maybe the keys were evacuated correctly this time. Hindsight is always so much better.
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#5751 Postby FloridaGirl » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:14 am

I live in the Fort Walton Beach area and am unsure as to what to do. I have already gassed the car and stored water and supplies, just do not know whether I want to risk the nightmare I went thru with Opal where we sat on the interstate for hours on end.

Hubby decided to take a hunting trip to Colorado last week so I am alone with plywood but cannot put it up by myself, I guess I will go begging to the neighbors. Is anyone else going to board up in this area or is it too soon to do this? My house held up well with Opal, so I think I would be OK to stay if it is a cat 3.
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#5752 Postby abajan » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:16 am

If only Grenada were so lucky...
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looks like western tip of cuba

#5753 Postby boca » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:17 am

will not have a direct hit unless Ivan changes course. Cancun and Cozamel are more in line than Wesstern Cuba, just an opinion.
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#5754 Postby wxwatcher2 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:17 am

Well, Key West is out of the cone. Wonder if they can go back home now??

I'm not sure the cone has anything to do with it.
You aren't suggesting that NHC is more than weather oriented? Do you think they are politically pressured as well?

(I'm still in the cone)
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#5755 Postby crabbyhermit » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:18 am

I just heard on FOX or MSNBC that there is currently more traffic going in to Key West than coming out, and that they are urging people that it's not time to think you can come back just yet.
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#5756 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:19 am

wxwatcher2 wrote:Well, Key West is out of the cone. Wonder if they can go back home now??

I'm not sure the cone has anything to do with it.
You aren't suggesting that NHC is more than weather oriented? Do you think they are politically pressured as well?

(I'm still in the cone)


I do not care what ANYONE SAYS! This storm is weird and it has not played by anyones rules.....Everyone should pay attention!!
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#5757 Postby Nimbus » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:21 am

Last few frames have been towards the middle of the Yucatan channel with an increased forward speed. Usually an increase in forward speed means the steering has become stronger for the direction of travel.
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#5758 Postby Portastorm » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:23 am

Nimbus, if that is true, then are you suggesting a more dedicated and consistent west-northwest passage through the Channel with less chance of the sharp right-hand turn Ivan would have to make to satisfy the current projected path?
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#5759 Postby Guest » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:25 am

looking at possible landfall around Pensacola, Fl.... not sure why the anchor woman felt inclined to say so as she was reviewing the up and coming rain chances for this week....maybe they, meaning Steve Lyons are leaning to the left. I noticed earlier he stated landfall would be most likely in western Florida panhandle.
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#5760 Postby bfez1 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:26 am

West, east, north? Geesh, which is it?
Which way is the storm moving as of right now?
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