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Evening Ivan Forecast... yet again to the left

#6521 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:18 pm

http://www.nwhhc.com/atl092004forecast.html


have to make yet another leftward shift
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#6522 Postby hial2 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:18 pm

Was the Yucatan watch issued by the NHC or the Mexican government?..There's probably the answer to your question
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#6523 Postby RonStallcup » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:19 pm

In Pensacola, I'm moving stuff and wrapping them in plastic.

It's taking longer than I thought.
Car has gas. Got food/water. Got money, but will get more.
All Laundry and dishes to be washed later to night.
Got plenty of sunblock for the sun afterwards.


God has given us many chances, may be we will get one more.
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#6524 Postby marc21688 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:19 pm

Why is everyone except the NHC shifting leftward, lol, seems weird to me.
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#6525 Postby Matthew5 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:20 pm

Information has comed in it is now a cat5!
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#6526 Postby ColdFront77 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:20 pm

There has been a SW to NE / W to E flow in the west-central and central Gulf of Mexico since yesterday. A shortwave
trough has moved out of the Midwest to the southeastern states and the ridge to the northeast of Ivan showing signs
of breaking down.

The latest model runs appear to be taking this 18 to 30 hour (especially 6 to 12 hour) development into acoount now.

I noticed the convection orientation go from WNW/ESE to more NW/SE, if not even a bit N/S.
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#6527 Postby Agua » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:20 pm

Actually, LowMug, the 8 p.m. Advisory menioned that interests along the eastern and central gulf coast should closely monitor this storm.
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#6528 Postby LAwxrgal » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:21 pm

This storm was supposed to turn 2 days ago. My thinking is whenever this turn takes place is south of where the hurricane will hit. Also, the turn will not happen quickly, instead it will be gradual.
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#6529 Postby c5Camille » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:22 pm

marc21688 wrote:Why is everyone except the NHC shifting leftward, lol, seems weird to me.


CYA...

if it moved left anymore... Tampa falls out of the cone...
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#6530 Postby FritzPaul » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:22 pm

hial2 wrote:Was the Yucatan watch issued by the NHC or the Mexican government?..There's probably the answer to your question


Mexican gov.
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#6531 Postby Windsong » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:23 pm

Lowmug, don't take it personal. Calidoug is having a bully moment. Seeing his screen name is CALI, I would guess California. If that is the case, he has no stake in the outcome. Your question is legitimate.
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#6532 Postby wxfreak » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:24 pm

Hey guys...after getting hit with lily and izzy in the mandeville area two years ago...my wife and I got tired of all of the storms! For about 3 weeks, I didn't even move the sandbags. Anyone familar with the area would remember that Donz on the lake became Donz in the lake two times!

Anyway...I hope you all stay safe and that this storm fizzles before it hits anywhere. And if it heads towards the big easy, it really wouldn't be a bad idea to get the heck out of dodge. We now live in the chattanooga area and don't worry about hurricanes anymore...just flooding :)
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#6533 Postby crabbyhermit » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:24 pm

FOX news just interviewed a weather guy with the NO weather service (or something) about what would happen with the storm here. The moral of the story: i think attention is shifting like the track, away from the Keys and toward the north GOM, incl. NOLA.
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#6534 Postby Brent » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:24 pm

:eek:
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#6535 Postby skysummit » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:25 pm

TSmith274 wrote:I see nothing wrong with discussing New Orleans as a possible target. If anything, it'll get people around here to start paying attention. Too early to start talking about New Orleans, you say? Just read this quote from the article posted in this thread earlier....
"Between 25,000 and 100,000 people would die, said John Clizbe, national vice president for disaster services with the American Red Cross."

In my book, we SHOULD be talking about New Orleans. It might save lives.


I agree. Even if Ivan doesn't come close to New Orleans, it is excellent to discuss the possibilities. IMO, New Orleans would experience the most devistation of any city along the coast. Being 6 feet below sea level, the flooding would be catastrophic.
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#6536 Postby marc21688 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:25 pm

Then they should enlarge the cone to include places farther west. I mean i understand why they are keeping Tampa in the cone but come on, Shouldn't places farther west know there is a possibility this storm can head for there area?
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#6537 Postby LowMug » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:25 pm

hial2 wrote:Was the Yucatan watch issued by the NHC or the Mexican government?..There's probably the answer to your question


Does that really answer the question...does it matter who issued the watches...the watches were issued because there is now a threat further west...of course it was not the NHC - it was the Mexican Government...

So if the threat is further west as the Mexican Gov't feels (maybe their meteorologist is Hurricanelover) why is their not a more in depth explanation...

I am not bashing the NHC, nor will I ever, however they are being a bit nebulous with their discussions as of late given the magnitude of uncertainty...
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#6538 Postby tronbunny » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:26 pm

If it's all running so far left, why haven't I heard the All clear for the Keys?
Maybe I just haven't been looking in the right places.
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#6539 Postby skysummit » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:27 pm

Matthew5 wrote:Information has comed in it is now a cat5!


Link please.
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#6540 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:28 pm

I saw the recon info, Matt, and I discussed it there. Please re-read the discussion before just repeating what others say. I am well aware of the FL profiles and based upon the height of the drop, this 135KT is also on the generous side


Graphics are now available at http://www.nwhhc.com/atl092004forecast.html
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