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#6721 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:50 pm

That means that they don't know where it will make landfall, but, they guess the highest chance of the eye making landfall of any place along the coast would be Buras, Louisiana....this is crazy!!! This storm is too hard to predict!!
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#6722 Postby STORMSURGE » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:50 pm

IVAN knows!
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#6723 Postby dennis1x1 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:52 pm

not speaking of outflow...speaking of the core....on sat it does not look like a cat 5, plain and simple!!

-50 in the eye? wow.....again..would never believe a cat 5 lurks under there


http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/archdat/trop ... N-828W.jpg
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#6724 Postby Anonymous » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:52 pm

Within 72hrs., and Buras being the closest. That is correct Sean.
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#6725 Postby calidoug » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:52 pm

That's just because the inner eyewall collapsed. It takes a little while for the larger eye to clear out.
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#6726 Postby dennis1x1 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:54 pm

yes...i know..but again...typically a cat 5 storm has that cleared out already.....this isnt a typical storm obviously.....as even at its non-ideal stage, cat 5 is maintained.


as for the black spots.....cold cloudtops.....colors get darker as tops get colder....black area nearing -80C
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#6727 Postby zoeyann » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:54 pm

Really what he said for Grand Isle was that they should finalize their plans because tommorrow night or Tuesday would be decision time. Very prudent considering there is only one way one and it floods very easily. I'm in a first stage evacuation area and I will prepare tommorrow.
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#6728 Postby recmod » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:55 pm

Interesting that no part of the FLorida peninsula is even listed in the poll. I guess the person who created the poll gives a 0% possibility to a NE turn toward FL????????
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#6729 Postby Guest » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:55 pm

Ivanova wrote:What are those black areas in the hurricane ??

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html


:?:


Intense thuderstorms
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#6730 Postby Ixolib » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:55 pm

Big EZ wrote:As recent as ten years ago, there were 50 miles of wetlands between the northern edge of the marsh, to downtown New Orleans. Now, it is only 20 miles. Huge difference, thus the big concern.


You nailed it EZ. The loss of the marsh is the single most important factor you face in a major hurricane. Unreal that 30 miles has been lost forever in only ten years. What if a Betsy would have come in now, instead of 1965??????
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#6731 Postby STORMSURGE » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:56 pm

Ivan is the biggest boy in the tub right now and is gonna splash the water any which way he wants.
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#6732 Postby Ivanova » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:57 pm

dennis1x1 wrote:
as for the black spots.....cold cloudtops.....
colors get darker as tops get colder....black area nearing -80C




Thanks for the info... how does this affect the hurricane ??

:?:
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#6733 Postby LSU2001 » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:58 pm

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#6734 Postby hesperhys » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:59 pm

dennis1x1 wrote:if what he said about the models were true i guess id agree with him...but its not...the nhc track is tightly clustered around both the ukmet and gfdl...the 2 most respected tropical models that are used. ONE run of the NOGAPS has shifted to new orleans.....until the other 2 show a shift...or at least multiple runs of the NOGAPS keeps the shift..it would be irresponsible to move the NHC track much from where it is...

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... model.html


Actually, the CMC has been pointing towards New Orleans since yesterday... and this model has been ahead of the other major global models for the last several days in the BIG trend westward that the others have followed (e.g. NOGAPS, which you mention above, has been trending westward since at least Wednesday)...
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#6735 Postby chakalakasp » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:59 pm

All I can say is: whoever it was in here that predicted that this year's Big Storm would be Ivan...

GOOD CALL! :eek:
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#6736 Postby logybogy » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:00 pm

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#6737 Postby BigO » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:00 pm

Either way...W, E or direct hit to NOLA and I am losing my camp house.

http:www.neworleanscamps.com

My website...shows the house and its position relative to the Pontchartrain shoreline.

It has been a wonderful place of peace, repose and a place to teach my kids how to fish and swim. If the forecast is to be believed, its days may well be numbered.
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#6738 Postby chakalakasp » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:02 pm

The next VORTEX should be spectacular. We'll let Yoda make the announcement
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#6739 Postby MGC » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:02 pm

If Ivan hits NO as a Cat 4 it really won't matter which direction the hit is from. Most likely track would be one simular to Isadore in 2002. Recall the flooding Isadore caused? Isadore was only a TS so perhaps double or triple the flood potential.....NOT GOOD......MGC
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#6740 Postby dhweather » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:02 pm

Ivan - I think there's no doubt this name will be retired.
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