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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1001 Postby Travorum » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:26 pm

939.9mb extrap so deepening at a steady rate, 124kt FL wind in the N and a 132kt SFMR reading. Blending those evenly would actually support 120 if you trust SFMR.

Edit: I missed the 129kt FL wind 30 seconds earlier, an even blend of those would support 125kts.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1002 Postby WaveBreaking » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:26 pm

939.9mbar extrap MSLP
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1003 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

SFMR could support 125-130 knots but flight level winds aren't quite there. Regardless Melissa is definitely intensifying again. Eye temps back up to 18.03C.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1004 Postby aspen » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

Deepening at a decent pace now. I’m struggling to find evidence of a double wind maxima in the wind measurement plot. If an outer eyewall is developing, it’s not showing up that much at the moment.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1005 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

WaveBreaking wrote:939.9mbar extrap MSLP


Pressure continues to drop Rapidly. This is a scary situation. I wonder if that NE eyewall drop is verified. It had 132kts at the surface.
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#1006 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

If it wasn't a C4 earlier, then it is one now. Clearly intensifying again.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1007 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

The moat comes and the moat goes,
What's up with that?

https://metservice.gov.jm/daily-forecast/radar/
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1008 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:30 pm

Feeling the effects of the new infeed of high-TPW air from the EPAC funneling thru southern Nicaragua.
As advertised.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1009 Postby WaveBreaking » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:31 pm

GCANE wrote:The moat comes and the moat goes,
What's up with that?

https://metservice.gov.jm/daily-forecast/radar/



The most looks really narrow on short range radar, and it’s only been narrowing since it showed up. I guess Melissa is going for an eyewall meld instead of a full-on replacement.

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1010 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:32 pm

GCANE wrote:The moat comes and the moat goes,
What's up with that?

https://metservice.gov.jm/daily-forecast/radar/

Eyewall meld may be occurring soon?
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#1011 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:32 pm

Drop 17 was just off the Jamaican coast and it's already showing 46kt winds and we're 24+ hours from landfall.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1012 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:32 pm

WaveBreaking wrote:
GCANE wrote:The moat comes and the moat goes,
What's up with that?

https://metservice.gov.jm/daily-forecast/radar/



The most looks really narrow on short range radar, and it’s only been narrowing since it showed up. I guess Melissa is going for an eyewall meld instead of a full p-on replacement.

https://i.imgur.com/mpNKLiS.jpeg


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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1013 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:34 pm

Jamaica radar loops
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1014 Postby zzzh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:35 pm

I see the double wind max on SE side
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1015 Postby USTropics » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:37 pm

GCANE wrote:The moat comes and the moat goes,
What's up with that?

https://metservice.gov.jm/daily-forecast/radar/


I'm thinking this is partly radar attenuation now. I haven't used this product in quite a while, but the jump between filling/nonfilling every so often leads me to believe its either attenuation or some issue with the plotting algorithm. If we get some TDR in one of these recon missions we'll have a better idea if that's what it is. This was a pass from GCOM-W1 a little over an hour ago (2:01PM ET):
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This was radar imagery at 2:07PM ET:
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Given recon reports on the eyewall, I'm assuming contraction for the time being + ramp up and eventual EWRC tonight.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1016 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:38 pm

Really can look into the eye now. Stadium effect with a warming eye. This may only be a few hours from going C5.

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1017 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:40 pm

New feeder band much closer to the eye.
Shooting straight west to Nicaragua.
Can see the eye rapidly contracting on IR.
Sone eyewall lightning,

https://weathernerds.org/satellite/?ini ... itgefs=Off
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1018 Postby Teban54 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:44 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Really can look into the eye now. Stadium effect with a warming eye. This may only be a few hours from going C5.

https://i.imgur.com/uLiCy6R.jpeg

It's a race between Melissa's true intensity catching up with its satellite presentation, vs. EWRC (if at all). Unlike Eta, the other (in)famous case of satellite estimates running too high, Melissa now actually has a warm, clear eye.

Note that Melissa's appearance is still improving, with the recent return of -80C cloud tops in the SE quad of the CDO. The blobs to the SE are now mostly gone or transformed to banding.

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1019 Postby aspen » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:49 pm

AF307 is headed home. When is the next flight scheduled to depart?
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1020 Postby zzzh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:50 pm

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The dropsonde profile is pretty strong. The wind in northern eyewall is so violent that the sonde actually landed on the west side, the weakest side (that's why you only see 99kt)
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