ATL: HELENE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3121 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:11 pm

MetroMike wrote:Local Met Denis Phillips said possible record storm surge numbers have come in for Pinellas Co.
Up to 10ft surge.Will get very rough this evening here.
Dennis seems a bit surprised on the effects and he downplays tornados even ef-0.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3122 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:11 pm

Kazmit wrote:Special advisory coming soon?

Lol a special advisory to announce cat4 upgrade 9 minutes after your previous advisory reducing the winds. Oof. Wouldn’t be the best optics if they had to do that.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3123 Postby BrandonJay21 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:11 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
caneman wrote:43,000 without power in Tampa Bay


And climbing regionally.
https://johngaltfla.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Screen-Shot-09-26-24-at-05.46-PM.jpg


does anyone know of a site where you can get a map like you show that shows updated power outages across the affected states?

Is this what you’re looking for? You can drill down into a county of a state.

https://poweroutage.us
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3124 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:11 pm

The eye is tracking east of the NHC projected path again.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3125 Postby Teban54 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:12 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Kazmit wrote:Special advisory coming soon?

Lol a special advisory to announce cat4 upgrade 9 minutes after your previous advisory reducing the winds. Oof

As I've said earlier, the 6pm update initially had a typo and has been corrected back to 110 kt, just before the recon pass came in.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3126 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:14 pm

I think NHC will just put out a Tropical Cyclone Update announcing the upgrade - 115 kt seems right, although a case could be made for 120 kt.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3127 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:15 pm

BrandonJay21 wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:


does anyone know of a site where you can get a map like you show that shows updated power outages across the affected states?

Is this what you’re looking for? You can drill down into a county of a state.

https://poweroutage.us


yea I found that also via google. but thank you. I'm good now.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3128 Postby WaveBreaking » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:16 pm

It only took 12 hours for Helene to go from this
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To this.
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Never underestimate the Loop Current.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3129 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:16 pm

ronjon wrote:The eye is tracking east of the NHC projected path again.



Yes it is, hopefully wobbles back or places like Cedar Key are going to be in even more trouble then they already are.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3130 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:16 pm

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3131 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:16 pm

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 9.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 26 SEP 2024 Time : 214020 UTC
Lat : 27:45:36 N Lon : 84:25:48 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.2 / 931.4mb/119.8kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.2 6.4 6.8

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 16 km

Center Temp : +0.7C Cloud Region Temp : -72.5C

Scene Type : EYE
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3132 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:17 pm

She will make a legitimate run at cat 5 in my opinion.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3133 Postby Teban54 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:18 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:
UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 9.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 26 SEP 2024 Time : 214020 UTC
Lat : 27:45:36 N Lon : 84:25:48 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.2 / 931.4mb/119.8kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.2 6.4 6.8

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 16 km

Center Temp : +0.7C Cloud Region Temp : -72.5C

Scene Type : EYE

It's quite ironic that many people thought earlier that Helene had an anomalously low pressure for its wind speed (due to its size), and yet its pressure is now higher than satellite estimates.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3134 Postby Travorum » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:18 pm

The breadth of the wind field continues to astound me, recon is just off the coast of Pinellas and recording 100kt FL wind:

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3135 Postby weeniepatrol » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:18 pm

...HELENE NOW AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE...
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3136 Postby Teban54 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:19 pm

Officially 115 kt, 947 mb.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3137 Postby Beef Stew » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:19 pm

There's the update statement. Category 4 with 130 mph and 947 mb.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3138 Postby HurricaneAndre2008 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:20 pm

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WTNT64 KNHC 262218
TCUAT4

Hurricane Helene Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092024
620 PM EDT Thu Sep 26 2024

...HELENE NOW AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE...

A NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft currently investigating Helene
recently found that the maximum sustained winds have increased to
130 mph (215 km/h). The minimum central pressure has also decreased
to 947 mb (27.96 inches) based on dropsonde data.

SUMMARY OF 620 PM EDT...2220 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.0N 84.5W
ABOUT 120 MI...195 KM W OF TAMPA FLORIDA
ABOUT 165 MI...265 KM S OF TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...130 MPH...215 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 25 DEGREES AT 23 MPH...37 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...947 MB...27.96 INCHES

$$
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3139 Postby Cyclenall » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:20 pm

Undergoing explosive intensification, if we assume its at 947mb currently and the rate remains steady at 4 mb drop per hr, 3-4 hr to landfall gives us roughly 935mb at landfall. High tier.

The interm advisory 120 mph thing was obviously a typo, recon was showing EI before it came out with duel rotating hot towers and clearing eye on Sat.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3140 Postby Steve » Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:21 pm

caneman wrote:
ronjon wrote:
caneman wrote:
Probably but it's looked like Perry from the beginning.


I'm thinking between Perry and Steinhatchee. Definitely Taylor County. Euro, GFS, UK, ICON all zeroed in on a 20 mile strip of coast.


100% you, I and NDG were on it and maybe a few others. I've lived here since 1976. You kinda learn how these things behave minus the meteorology degree. Credit to Bay News 9 and Spectrum News they've been all over Perry area or Taylor county. Klystron is the real deal!


Maybe a few others. Give it up again for the Icon once again for a Gulf storm in 2024. It’s probably a Top 3 or 4 global these days - at least for the Gulf.
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