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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#401 Postby kevin » Fri Oct 24, 2025 6:52 am

Recon found the eye at 16.0N/75.0W so 0.6 degrees east of the latest forecast position. Seems like the strong convection to the east has pushed or relocated the center a bit to that side. Not sure whether this will have a significant impact on the track. All models are now trending a lot more SW (many even south of Jamaica) in the 06z cycle. But of course they don't have this slightly more eastern center.

Edit: now that I check, HAFS-A actually initializes at 75.1W and is even the most southern solution (about 2.5 degrees south of Jamaica) in the 06z cycle.

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#402 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 6:57 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#403 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:19 am

Shear beginning to slowly dissipate

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... wg8sht.GIF

A big slug of high TPW air in the EPAC is trying to make its way around the Costa Rica mountains.
Should make its way through Panama in the next 24 hrs and into Melissa around Sunday.
IMHO, it is likely Melissa will strengthen then and makes it way to Jamaica.
At that point, more high TPW air will move in from the EPAC thru Honduras.

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... anim=html5


RI will likely occur during this time causing the eye to shrink to a pinhole.
MSLP will likely approach 900mb.
Strengthening will depend in large part on the position of the anticyclone at that time.
It is difficult to forecast, but it is likely to be very closing due to the retrograding of the trough.

About 24hrs after that, an EWRC is very likely to occur.

Looking very bad for Jamaica.
Cuba maybe spared the brunt of this due to a possible EWRC underway as Melissa approaches landfall during that time.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#404 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:25 am

Chances starting to look better for this to reform around 15N 74.5W sometime during the day today.
In fact recon is heading there now.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#405 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:29 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#406 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:31 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#407 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:51 am

GCANE wrote:Chances starting to look better for this to reform around 15N 74.5W sometime during the day today.
In fact recon is heading there now.


That's what i'm seeing too. Looks to be forming around 14.8N & 74.3 W
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#408 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:55 am

Perhaps an initial heading of roughly 160° or SSE at about 5 mph. Maybe it'll do a counterclockwise loop today before back to a west to WSW motion tomorrow
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#409 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:05 am

Looks like recon didn't want to get close to that hot tower.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#410 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:09 am

Holy crap, I just saw they measured near 80mm/hr rain rate near that tower.
About the strongest I have ever seen.
Rapid core heating is underway.
Shear reduction is having a big effect.


https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/r ... series.png
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#411 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:10 am

Rooting for a LLC re-location south personally. The more this thing gets away from Jamacia the better.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#412 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:16 am

14.95N 74.45W looking real good.
Top-end rain rate.
Persistent cirrus outflow with stacking and radial fingers.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#413 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:18 am

GCANE wrote:14.95N 74.45W looking real good.
Top-end rain rate.
Persistent cirrus outflow with stacking and radial fingers.

Isn't this where they tagged the center?
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#414 Postby Teban54 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:19 am

Has anyone been keeping track of how many reformations Melissa had?

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#415 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:23 am

Feeder band forming from just north of Panama into the system.
Getting a lot of juice from the EPAC.
Can see more of that moist air being blocked by the Costa Rica mountains and moving south towards Panama.
Will likely move across Panama late today or tomorrow and then into Melissa late this weekend.
Highly likely Melissa will RI after that.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv_mid
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#416 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:26 am

AutoPenalti wrote:
GCANE wrote:14.95N 74.45W looking real good.
Top-end rain rate.
Persistent cirrus outflow with stacking and radial fingers.

Isn't this where they tagged the center?


They tagged it very close to 16N 75W.
But it looks like it is walking its way down to the hot tower.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#417 Postby aspen » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:27 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Rooting for a LLC re-location south personally. The more this thing gets away from Jamacia the better.

That jog to the east on recon might unfortunately raise the odds of a Jamaica landfall.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#418 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:09 am

Starting to see a warm-core signature on IR at 14.95N 74.45W

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... product=ir
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#419 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:16 am

It's getting hard to see what is movement and what is caused by shear
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#420 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:25 am

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